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dreamwaverider Flag London 14 Jul 21 5.42pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Just seen that Townsend is not renewing.
Just like to say thanks a lot Andros for many brilliant bits of football. You are one of my favourite players because you always try something dangerous and exciting. A real legend in my book. The goal at Man City and that one that blasted into the Homesdale goal top corner were my best. I think it was against Burnley. Thanks a lot buddy for so much pleasure. Good luck.

 

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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 14 Jul 21 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Just seen that Townsend is not renewing.
Just like to say thanks a lot Andros for many brilliant bits of football. You are one of my favourite players because you always try something dangerous and exciting. A real legend in my book. The goal at Man City and that one that blasted into the Homesdale goal top corner were my best. I think it was against Burnley. Thanks a lot buddy for so much pleasure. Good luck.

Agree. You’ve forgotten his goal at WBA when he ran the length of the pitch. The Man City goal will be watched for decades.

He’s a model pro who will be tough to replace. He’s no spring chicken but probably had another couple of decent seasons in him. Personally I’d like him to sign a 1 year contract but he can probably get a better offer elsewhere.

A guy I know who’s got some inside info has told me previously that Andros absolute loves football more than anyone else and just wants to be on the pitch for 90 mins every game - apparently (and surprisingly) most pro’s don’t actually enjoy it all that much.

 

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Elwissthebest Flag Marlborough 14 Jul 21 9.51pm Send a Private Message to Elwissthebest Add Elwissthebest as a friend

If it is the case that Joel Ward will be offered a new contract and Andros Townsend will not, then I think we are moving in the wrong direction! Ward was a liability last year and it would be a surprise if he improved this time round. Townsend has flair. If you happen to believe (highly unfashionable view) that football is about entertainment, then it's a curious decision.

 

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Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 14 Jul 21 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

What are their salaries?

My guess is that Wardy will be significantly below Townsend this year. Also, it will be his testimonial year, which is great. I wouldn't be surprised if it also had something to do with the length of the contract.

Originally posted by Elwissthebest

If it is the case that Joel Ward will be offered a new contract and Andros Townsend will not, then I think we are moving in the wrong direction! Ward was a liability last year and it would be a surprise if he improved this time round. Townsend has flair. If you happen to believe (highly unfashionable view) that football is about entertainment, then it's a curious decision.

 

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Omph Flag Liverpool 14 Jul 21 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Elwissthebest

If it is the case that Joel Ward will be offered a new contract and Andros Townsend will not, then I think we are moving in the wrong direction! Ward was a liability last year and it would be a surprise if he improved this time round. Townsend has flair. If you happen to believe (highly unfashionable view) that football is about entertainment, then it's a curious decision.


It's quite possibly the case that both were offered an extension but that one wanted to stay and the other didn't. Wages will come into it but so will contract length and discussions about likelihood of a first team place.

Also forward players have flair and defenders generally not - follow your train of thought and we'd still have Vince Hilaire! But more seriously Andros is now on the backburner as a first team regular behind the likes of Olise and Eze. Useful squad player and good for when we are packing midfield with players who track back.

My guess is he will turn up at Norwich.

Edited by Omph (14 Jul 2021 10.05pm)

 

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EddieMac Flag 15 Jul 21 7.19am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Daddyorc

What are their salaries?

My guess is that Wardy will be significantly below Townsend this year. Also, it will be his testimonial year, which is great. I wouldn't be surprised if it also had something to do with the length of the contract.

I agree with this. Townsend probably on double or more than Ward and knows he can get a few year contract elsewhere where as the club didn’t want to give him long contract.

He is no major loss, he has had some good moments but he can be easily replaced.

 

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djmikeyp Flag 15 Jul 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to djmikeyp Add djmikeyp as a friend

Aside from his stunning goals and crossing ability, I don’t believe Andros is given sufficient credit for the unbridled enthusiasm he shows in every game. This can rub off on other players - as can the negative vibes some are guilty of.
That’s why he is one of my favourites.
Norwich is my second favourite club, so I hope he goes there and they both do well next season.

 

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Omph Flag Liverpool 15 Jul 21 10.28am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

I'll be really sad when he is confirmed out and agree with your attitude to him. Extra kudos for wearing the Eze shirt at Selhurst after the final match.

Originally posted by djmikeyp

Aside from his stunning goals and crossing ability, I don’t believe Andros is given sufficient credit for the unbridled enthusiasm he shows in every game. This can rub off on other players - as can the negative vibes some are guilty of.
That’s why he is one of my favourites.
Norwich is my second favourite club, so I hope he goes there and they both do well next season.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 15 Jul 21 11.59am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

I notice that Clyne was with the squad at St Georges Park in the recent video. Couldn't see any other out of contract players.

Personally I'd sign both Ward and Clyne, as we have no idea if Ferguson will be good enough even if can get fit. Unless of course we can sign an excellent young right back, or have one coming through the system.

Not sure if there is any significance in Clyne being present in terms of the club wanting to keep him, or perhaps he might simply have a different approach to training (and risking injury) when not under contract - he trained with us when out of contract before.

 

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The Beger Flag Croydon 15 Jul 21 1.51pm Send a Private Message to The Beger Add The Beger as a friend

According to Sky Sports offers made to Ward and Cahill. According to another source, who was right about a signing on Saturday, long before news broke, Ward and Clyne have already signed, Cahill weighing up his options.

Pinch of salt as always.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 15 Jul 21 1.59pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

If both Ward and Clyne sign then two things are apparent.
1. Ferguson must be toast
2. Clyne needs to stay fit because he is (in my opinion) better than Ward.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 15 Jul 21 2.11pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If both Ward and Clyne sign then two things are apparent.
1. Ferguson must be toast
2. Clyne needs to stay fit because he is (in my opinion) better than Ward.

Not sure I'd conclude that Ferguson is toast. Just not fit yet, and not likely to be fit for a while, that's all.

Plus Ferguson can apparently play across the back four, so he may end up at centre back, in which case we'd still need two right backs.

 

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