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matt_himself Matataland 18 Oct 15 4.51pm | |
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Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks.
I thought you had 'been told' not to interact with me?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Oct 15 6.55pm | |
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Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks.
I thought you had 'been told' not to interact with me? My mistake, I didn't look at the posterer.
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legaleagle 18 Oct 15 7.34pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 18 Oct 2015 2.51pm
Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks. Another interesting article,which arrives at a different conclusion.
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Oct 15 7.42pm | |
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Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks. Another interesting article,which arrives at a different conclusion.
The paragraph that begins 'in other ways...' doesnt come to a 'different conclusion'.
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matt_himself Matataland 18 Oct 15 7.42pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 18 Oct 2015 6.55pm
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Quote matt_himself at 18 Oct 2015 2.51pm
Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks.
I thought you had 'been told' not to interact with me? My mistake, I didn't look at the posterer. I don't believe you. Methinks someone is stirring...
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legaleagle 18 Oct 15 9.54pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 18 Oct 2015 7.42pm
The paragraph that begins 'in other ways...' doesnt come to a 'different conclusion'. Indeed,I read the article this morning,well before reading your link. Your summary was:"Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks" The link I posted featured quotes from relatives of a youth killed after stabbing a policeman:
Asked about why this episode is different from the first and second intifadas, in the weapons of choice and the organisation or lack of it, Assad Mohammed Ali says: “This is a pure intifada. It is pure because it is about individuals’ personal motivation. They are the ones who sparked it.” The other uncle adds: “The last ones were political. This is not political; it is spontaneous.” "...Their depiction of a demotic violent resistance that is spontaneous and unorganised, and with imitative elements, reflects assessments by many in Israel’s security establishment and by statements posted online by some attackers." Seems different to your summary to me,but you are entitled to your own take.
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matt_himself Matataland 19 Oct 15 5.36am | |
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Quote legaleagle at 18 Oct 2015 9.54pm
Quote matt_himself at 18 Oct 2015 7.42pm
The paragraph that begins 'in other ways...' doesnt come to a 'different conclusion'. Indeed,I read the article this morning,well before reading your link. Your summary was:"Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks" The link I posted featured quotes from relatives of a youth killed after stabbing a policeman:
Asked about why this episode is different from the first and second intifadas, in the weapons of choice and the organisation or lack of it, Assad Mohammed Ali says: “This is a pure intifada. It is pure because it is about individuals’ personal motivation. They are the ones who sparked it.” The other uncle adds: “The last ones were political. This is not political; it is spontaneous.” "...Their depiction of a demotic violent resistance that is spontaneous and unorganised, and with imitative elements, reflects assessments by many in Israel’s security establishment and by statements posted online by some attackers." Seems different to your summary to me,but you are entitled to your own take.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Oct 15 11.25am | |
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Interestingly the knife and handgun attacks have actually killed more Israeli's than their missile campaigns. It also, from a tactical point of view, makes it much harder for Israeli to retaliate with airstrikes, because they cannot use the excuse that they're striking at missile launching sites etc. In terms of a tactic, despite its brutality, its surprisingly very effective. Essentially they're 'lone wolf' affiliates to Hamas and assorted groups, operating in a manner that's largely undetectable (you can't really ban knives and handguns are all over Israel and the occupied territories) - so its much harder to intercept than the suicide bombers were.
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Oliver Bodega Bay 19 Oct 15 11.45am | |
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Two kids shot dead by Israeli soldiers today. Here we go again.
They are hidden in areas populated by ordinary people, knowing that Israeli bombs aimed at them will slaughter their own. They are no doubt on the phone to Riyadh and Doha, arranging more money to be sent to them to continue the 'struggle'. Blaming Israel for this is too simplistic and wrong. The Palestinian leaders need to be held up for scrutiny.
Of course they found no evidence.... they weren't looking for any!
I actually do care about others, but in this case it's the Israelis/Jewish people. Just in case any body forgot or wasn't paying attention in History classes at school, the Jews were treated pretty badly from about 1930 to 1945 by Hitler and the Nazis (and probably Stalin and his regime). The state of Israel was created to give the Jewish people a "spiritual home" and universal agreement to this creation was sanctioned by the UN. Since it's creation, neighbouring Arab countries have tried to wage war with Israel, but so far have got a bloody nose. Bearing in mind the treatment Jews have experienced since 1930 is it any wonder that they are fed up with Arab aggression, do not trust Arabs and will not rule out any measures to protect their borders and population. The Palestinians are just sh1t-stirring and deserve all the retaliation that they get from Israel when it is always them that breaks the ceasefires. Did the History you studied in school start in 1930 and was taught by ex member of Irgun
Having thought about your reply a little deeper I can say that the millions of Jews killed in the holocaust probably wouldn't find your riposte amusing. Edited by Hoof Hearted (13 Oct 2015 10.32am)
The treatment they suffered under Tsarist Russia caused them to flee in their millions initially to US and then with the rise of Zionism and the First and Second Aliyahs to Palestine changing the demography of the area forever. To say the land was given to the Jewish people with universal agreement is wrong.
With regard to your last point - wasn't the matter debated by the UN and voted on? That suggests universal agreement to me. Now we have established you have no historical knowledge of the region or its geopolitics. We will move on to English vocabulary go and look up the meaning of universal in a dictionary and then look up the result of the vote for General Assembly Resolution 181.
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Oliver Bodega Bay 19 Oct 15 11.54am | |
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Quote matt_himself at 18 Oct 2015 2.51pm
Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks.
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matt_himself Matataland 19 Oct 15 12.12pm | |
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Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks.
It is known as debate. I appreciate that the left is trying to kill debate via bullying and use of emotive imaginery (see your post above regarding a 'ground offensive') but to me it is an important part of human interaction.
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Oliver Bodega Bay 19 Oct 15 12.32pm | |
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Interesting article on how the Palestinian Authority and Abbas appear to be inciting the latest troubles: What is very interesting is that the article challenges the idea that the recent Palestinian knife attacks on Israeli citizens (both Jewish and Arab Israelis have been attacked) are 'lone wolf' attacks.
It is known as debate. I appreciate that the left is trying to kill debate via bullying and use of emotive imaginery (see your post above regarding a 'ground offensive') but to me it is an important part of human interaction. Well you kicked off the thread by suggesting the next intifada had started. Justification for a ground offensive? Debate do me a favour
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