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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 5.49pm | |
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Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 5.41pm
If THE VERY WELL FUNDED 'IS' wanted to attack these shores they could, easily. You ''can't decide'' because you're dumb.
You calling me dumb is like being insulted by the village idiot.
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elgrande bedford 26 Jul 15 5.49pm | |
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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am
Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?
I have a question for those on the right who have no sympathy with these poor folk: how bad would things have to get in Britain for you to leave? Would you leave if war broke out? If bombings were frequent? Jeremy Corbyn became PM? So what you are saying is that whoever turns up at the French port of Calais, regardless of how many there are, we should house them. Is this what you are actually suggesting? Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Jul 2015 11.56am)
I'm guessing your alternative would be to let them drown in the sea or return to their countries and die?
Next point is that it would not be ‘temporary’ would it? These guys are not ever planning to go home. If I was a genuine asylum seeker and my life and the lives of my family were in danger then I would do whatever I could to escape from the situation. However, as soon as I crossed the border into a safe country I would kneel down, kiss the ground and thank god for being safe. I wouldn’t then cross another 10 borders until I reach the UK. These people are economic migrants – not genuine asylum seekers. You speak about letting these people return home to die but that is simply not the case. Most of these have already had the chance to claim asylum in any number of countries and have refused to do so. Who would pay for their housing? You and I – the tax payer. Would you be happy to pay more tax and receive less money each year? You ask what I would do, I would invest more in security to guard our ports at either end. I would put HUGE pressure on the French and the EU to start facing their own responsibilities and to actually start deporting anyone in their countries who does not hold a current visa/passport. Ultimately though my answer would be simple – leave the EU and take control our own borders. Deport anybody who is found here illegally, and offer no incentive for people to wish to settle here unless via a legal route. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Jul 2015 12.53pm)
Be it Italy,Greece or spain or indeed France where the people we are talking about are "camped out".
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Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 1.26pm
Not hard to see which Hol posters would have supported establishment apathy in helping to rescue fleeing Jews had they been around during 1939-45. 'We've already got 40million - we haven't got the room for Chaim and his family of eight' The Syrians, Iraqis and Eritreans are no different. To return them would mean at best hard labour or imprisonment and torture, or conscription for life probably. Though execution is just as likely. Help the most needy first. That is them. We've had it pretty good for well over half a century on the whole. No harm now in helping decent people who have had their homes, families and everything else taken away from them through no fault of their own.
Not at the time we were sending them back they weren't. Different era etc. Of course many illegals trying to get into the UK will be in a similar situation.
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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 5.53pm | |
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Quote leggedstruggle at 26 Jul 2015 1.40pm
Send them round to Jeremy Corbyn's house.
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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 6.04pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 5.33pm
So you think benefit gorging, work shy, fat, loud, aggressive and ignorant chavs and slobs a la Jeremy Kyle should be put first before some nice, decent, hard-working, family minded and bright people who may happen to have come to the UK from a different country by way of really nasty situations back home which have occurred through no fault of theirs? So which would you prefer to live next door to if the house were empty and you had to choose between the two? Surely you would put the loud chavs first? They are UK nationals after all. The point is about being able to decide which EU foreigners we have in here.....We already have the power to decide with non EU nationals.....As should be the case for any country. I don't mind paying along with the rest of us for British chavs and wasters.....I object to not being able to filter out EU chavs and wasters. Sure they don't mind working initially....The rules force them too......However, the girls can get themselves knocked up or the boys knock up some bird and bingo. I should add that I have known and taught many fine EU nationals who I thought the nation would be lucky to stay here......I've also taught and know exactly the opposite. The system isn't hard......Economic immigrants aren't stupid.....If you really want to stay here it isn't that hard to work out how to do it. I just believe the nation state should look out for its own.....I totally reject the notion that EU foreigners are equal in national regard to British citizens. If they want that equality then in my book they should look to become naturalized.
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 26 Jul 15 6.04pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Jul 2015 5.49pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 5.41pm
If THE VERY WELL FUNDED 'IS' wanted to attack these shores they could, easily. You ''can't decide'' because you're dumb.
You calling me dumb is like being insulted by the village idiot. You obviously have experience. I bet the village idiot wasn't wrong either.
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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 6.11pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Jul 2015 5.49pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 5.41pm
If THE VERY WELL FUNDED 'IS' wanted to attack these shores they could, easily. You ''can't decide'' because you're dumb.
You calling me dumb is like being insulted by the village idiot. You obviously have experience. I bet the village idiot wasn't wrong either. You obviously can't see the contradiction in terms.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 26 Jul 15 6.27pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Jul 2015 6.11pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 6.04pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Jul 2015 5.49pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 5.41pm
If THE VERY WELL FUNDED 'IS' wanted to attack these shores they could, easily. You ''can't decide'' because you're dumb.
You calling me dumb is like being insulted by the village idiot. You obviously have experience. I bet the village idiot wasn't wrong either. You obviously can't see the contradiction in terms. There is no contradiction.
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leggedstruggle Croydon 26 Jul 15 6.31pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 1.26pm
Not hard to see which Hol posters would have supported establishment apathy in helping to rescue fleeing Jews had they been around during 1939-45. 'We've already got 40million - we haven't got the room for Chaim and his family of eight' The Syrians, Iraqis and Eritreans are no different. To return them would mean at best hard labour or imprisonment and torture, or conscription for life probably. Though execution is just as likely. Help the most needy first. That is them. We've had it pretty good for well over half a century on the whole. No harm now in helping decent people who have had their homes, families and everything else taken away from them through no fault of their own.
So which would you prefer to live next door to if the house were empty and you had to choose between the two? Surely you would put the loud chavs first? They are UK nationals after all. Why bring the Roma into this?
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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 6.35pm | |
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Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 6.27pm
There is no contradiction. If you can't see the contradiction in someone being called a hypothetical village idiot when they are in fact correct....Well, then you also don't know what a contradiction is. You started with the 'dumb' insults so don't now complain about them. If you don't use insults then you won't get them in return. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 6.35pm)
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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 26 Jul 15 6.35pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 5.33pm
Quote fed up eagle at 26 Jul 2015 5.03pm
Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 1.26pm
Not hard to see which Hol posters would have supported establishment apathy in helping to rescue fleeing Jews had they been around during 1939-45. 'We've already got 40million - we haven't got the room for Chaim and his family of eight' The Syrians, Iraqis and Eritreans are no different. To return them would mean at best hard labour or imprisonment and torture, or conscription for life probably. Though execution is just as likely. Help the most needy first. That is them. We've had it pretty good for well over half a century on the whole. No harm now in helping decent people who have had their homes, families and everything else taken away from them through no fault of their own.
So which would you prefer to live next door to if the house were empty and you had to choose between the two? Surely you would put the loud chavs first? They are UK nationals after all.
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 26 Jul 15 6.56pm | |
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Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Jul 2015 6.35pm
Quote -TUX- at 26 Jul 2015 6.27pm
There is no contradiction. If you can't see the contradiction in someone being called a hypothetical village idiot when they are in fact correct....Well, then you also don't know what a contradiction is. You started with the 'dumb' insults so don't now complain about them. If you don't use insults then you won't get them in return. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 6.35pm)
Re-read the thread and what you first posted. I look forward to your apology
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