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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Jun 15 3.49pm
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The Sash

Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Jun 15 3.49pm

Just make everyone worship the life and wisdom of Chuck Norris

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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Stirlingsays 04 Jun 15 3.53pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.44pm Humanism is a crock of liberal shte; f*k it make them actually study philosophy, and equip themselves for the capacity to think for themselves. Just like philosophy you take from it what makes sense.....There's a fair amount of waffle in Philosophy as well.....Well, humanism is just a branch of philosophy anyway. But I suspect you know that. And yes, a well brought up person is encouraged to think for themselves......And they are also encouraged to steer clear of A class drugs.....dig dig. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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04 Jun 15 3.53pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.44pm

Humanism is a crock of liberal sh*te; f**k it make them actually study philosophy, and equip themselves for the capacity to think for themselves.

Just like philosophy you take from it what makes sense.....There's a fair amount of waffle in Philosophy as well.....Well, humanism is just a branch of philosophy anyway.

But I suspect you know that.

And yes, a well brought up person is encouraged to think for themselves......And they are also encouraged to steer clear of A class drugs.....dig dig.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 04 Jun 15 3.58pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.48pm Freedom of religion is a right in this country. Provided the Education board ensures that the education provided in non-religious subjects is sufficient, then its those peoples right to fill their heads and childrens heads with spurious nonsense like most parents do. Freedom of religion is a right. However, the British taxpayer should not be paying for schools to push wish fulfil nonsense stories as truth to children in classes. Parents can do that in their own time. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jun 15 3.58pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.48pm

Freedom of religion is a right in this country. Provided the Education board ensures that the education provided in non-religious subjects is sufficient, then its those peoples right to fill their heads and childrens heads with spurious nonsense like most parents do.

Freedom of religion is a right.

However, the British taxpayer should not be paying for schools to push wish fulfil nonsense stories as truth to children in classes.

Parents can do that in their own time.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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TheJudge 04 Jun 15 4.28pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.48pm Quote TheJudge at 04 Jun 2015 12.58pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 9.57am Quote TheJudge at 03 Jun 2015 11.51am Faith schools should be banned and infringement of personal rights as a result of religious doctrine should be illegal. Time for our mostly secular country and it's mostly secular government to clamp down on religious nuttery. Of course they will be more interested in keeping their ethnic/religious minority voters sweet. I wouldn't go so far as that, but they should only be available without any state funding as private schools, and still have to match a secular curriculum. I don't have a problem with a school teaching creationism that's what RE is for, I have a problem with it being taught as science. Why ? They create division and perpetuate the religious organisations that this World could well do without. Freedom of religion is a right in this country. Provided the Education board ensures that the education provided in non-religious subjects is sufficient, then its those peoples right to fill their heads and childrens heads with spurious nonsense like most parents do. When it comes to religion I am extremely puritanical. The right to believe in what ever fairy tale nonsense you want is a right that cannot be removed at this point in time and rightly so. Religion is something else. It is a construct designed to control and divide.
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04 Jun 15 4.28pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.48pm

Quote TheJudge at 04 Jun 2015 12.58pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 9.57am

Quote TheJudge at 03 Jun 2015 11.51am

Faith schools should be banned and infringement of personal rights as a result of religious doctrine should be illegal. Time for our mostly secular country and it's mostly secular government to clamp down on religious nuttery.

Of course they will be more interested in keeping their ethnic/religious minority voters sweet.

I wouldn't go so far as that, but they should only be available without any state funding as private schools, and still have to match a secular curriculum. I don't have a problem with a school teaching creationism that's what RE is for, I have a problem with it being taught as science.

Why ? They create division and perpetuate the religious organisations that this World could well do without.

When it comes to religion I am extremely puritanical.
The right to believe in what ever fairy tale nonsense you want is a right that cannot be removed at this point in time and rightly so. Religion is something else. It is a construct designed to control and divide.

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TheJudge 04 Jun 15 4.43pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 04 Jun 2015 12.42pm Quote TheJudge at 03 Jun 2015 11.51am Faith schools should be banned and infringement of personal rights as a result of religious doctrine should be illegal. Time for our mostly secular country and it's mostly secular government to clamp down on religious nuttery. Of course they will be more interested in keeping their ethnic/religious minority voters sweet. There are many good faith schools....But ultimately I agree. All schools need to have some sort of ethos.... they should probably pursue humanism and move away from religion. Humanism is a crock of liberal shte; f*k it make them actually study philosophy, and equip themselves for the capacity to think for themselves. Probably true. But asking people to think for themselves by using philosophy opens a can of philosophical worms in itself. Does anyone really think for themselves anyway ? I would suggest that in the process of casting off some absurd Victorian values we have also lost some rather more sensible ones. We have several generations of parents who's moral compass has swung far too far in the wrong direction and are a big influence on the next generation. The task is to address the balance in morality and consideration for fellow human beings that has been eroded. Yes, that is also sounding rather like liberal,left bollox but if we are to discourage outdated religious ideologies we must replace it with other forms of guidance. Unfortunately I suspect that a lot of people do not have the wherewithal to think for themselves or be taught to do so as you suggest. That is probably why we still have bonkers religions.
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04 Jun 15 4.43pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jun 2015 3.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 04 Jun 2015 12.42pm

Quote TheJudge at 03 Jun 2015 11.51am

Of course they will be more interested in keeping their ethnic/religious minority voters sweet.

There are many good faith schools....But ultimately I agree.

All schools need to have some sort of ethos.... they should probably pursue humanism and move away from religion.

Humanism is a crock of liberal sh*te; f**k it make them actually study philosophy, and equip themselves for the capacity to think for themselves.

Probably true. But asking people to think for themselves by using philosophy opens a can of philosophical worms in itself. Does anyone really think for themselves anyway ?
I would suggest that in the process of casting off some absurd Victorian values we have also lost some rather more sensible ones. We have several generations of parents who's moral compass has swung far too far in the wrong direction and are a big influence on the next generation. The task is to address the balance in morality and consideration for fellow human beings that has been eroded. Yes, that is also sounding rather like liberal,left bollox but if we are to discourage outdated religious ideologies we must replace it with other forms of guidance. Unfortunately I suspect that a lot of people do not have the wherewithal to think for themselves or be taught to do so as you suggest. That is probably why we still have bonkers religions.

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derben 04 Jun 15 5.16pm
What we need is few more elderly spinster headmistresses dressed in tweeds, like when I was a primary school kid.
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derben

04 Jun 15 5.16pm

What we need is few more elderly spinster headmistresses dressed in tweeds, like when I was a primary school kid.

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