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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 22 Aug 15 8.08pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 6.26pm Quote ghosteagle at 21 Aug 2015 5.33pm Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 5.11pm Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request. crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK: 2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383. 2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787. 2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396. 2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958. In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31% Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were: 2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332. In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16% I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results. Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07% South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001% England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07% So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more. Really? 7383 as a percentage of 101,000 is 7.3099%. Perhaps you should get a new calculator or learn to use the one you have. Of course the figure in reality is higher as some of the 101,000 would be children. Edited by leggedstruggle (21 Aug 2015 6.29pm) He has problems with English, too. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 22 Aug 15 8.08pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 6.26pm

Quote ghosteagle at 21 Aug 2015 5.33pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 21 Aug 2015 5.11pm

Some more Romanian statistics taken from a police response to a freedom of information request.
crimes by Romanian Nationals in the UK:

2012: Burglary 441, Robbery 93, All Other Violent Offences 779, Rape 20, All Other Sexual Offences 178, Murder 3, All Other Offences 5869. Total 7383.

2011: Burglary 385, Robbery 67, All Other Violent Offences 760, Rape 41, All Other Sexual Offences 197, Murder 5, All Other Offences 5332. Total 6787.

2010: Burglary 312, Robbery 75, All Other Violent Offences 657, Rape 31, All Other Sexual Offences 151, Murder 1, All Other Offences 5169. Total 6396.

2009: Burglary 178, Robbery 49, All Other Violent Offences 476, Rape 35, All Other Sexual Offences 120, Murder 1, All Other Offences 4099. Total 4958.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 101,000 Romanian born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 7.31%

Figures for say South African Nationals in the UK were:

2012: Burglary 2, Robbery 2, All Other Violent Offences 108, Rape 3, All Other Sexual Offences 10, Murder 0, All Other Offences 207. Total 332.

In 2012 (from Office of National Statistics) there were 209,000 South African born Nationals in the UK. So crime rate for 2012 is 0.16%

I decided to double-check your maths and surprisingly my calculator shows completely different results.

Romanian crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

South African crime rate for 2012 = 0.001%

England & Wales crime rate for 2012 = 0.07%

So, what has been proved is that South Africans are great people and the Romanians are as criminal as the next guy, but no more.

Really? 7383 as a percentage of 101,000 is 7.3099%.
Perhaps you should get a new calculator or learn to use the one you have.
Of course the figure in reality is higher as some of the 101,000 would be children.

Edited by leggedstruggle (21 Aug 2015 6.29pm)

He has problems with English, too.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Stirlingsays 22 Aug 15 8.12pm
The point is the 'racism' judgement should be careful ground. I've been called a racist on Hol by several posters.....I've also called one poster a racist and another an antisemitic......While I've also at one point been called....rather amusingly antisemitic myself. I think it's at best avoided unless you are very sure.....Sometimes people just say stupid stuff....To really know you need time in debates.....Also....rather importantly you need to be fair minded yourself....Not common with some once the blood is up. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Aug 2015 8.45pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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The point is the 'racism' judgement should be careful ground.

I've been called a racist on Hol by several posters.....I've also called one poster a racist and another an antisemitic......While I've also at one point been called....rather amusingly antisemitic myself.

I think it's at best avoided unless you are very sure.....Sometimes people just say stupid stuff....To really know you need time in debates.....Also....rather importantly you need to be fair minded yourself....Not common with some once the blood is up.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Aug 2015 8.45pm)

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Stirlingsays 22 Aug 15 8.14pm
I'm disappointed that the 'Judge' is no longer with us. As far as I could see he was a bloody good poster. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Aug 15 8.14pm

I'm disappointed that the 'Judge' is no longer with us.

As far as I could see he was a bloody good poster.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 22 Aug 15 8.28pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground. I've been called a racist on Hol by several posters.....I've also called one poster a racist and another an antisemitic......While I've also at one point been called....rather amusingly antisemitic myself. I think it's at best avoided unless you are very sure.....Sometimes people just say stupid stuff....To really know you need time in debates.....Also....rather importantly you need to be fair minded yourself....Not common with some once the blood is up. Personally Sterling I don’t see what the big deal is with being called a racist is anyway. Now if someone called me pedo that would be different. Personally I would say that I am racist as I have pre-conceived ideas about races, am judgemental over race and also if I’m perfectly honest, prefer some races over others. That said, I also understand that deep down we are all one family and preconceptions are only skin deep and often meaningless. Personally I believe to a greater or lesser extent that everyone is racist, many/most I’m sure would never admit it but if anyone wants to call me racist it really wouldn’t bother me because I am one. Just to add as a footnote - I am ½ English, ¼ Irish. ¼ Black Caribbean and am married to a Jewish girl! "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 22 Aug 15 8.28pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm

The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground.

Personally Sterling I don’t see what the big deal is with being called a racist is anyway. Now if someone called me pedo that would be different. Personally I would say that I am racist as I have pre-conceived ideas about races, am judgemental over race and also if I’m perfectly honest, prefer some races over others. That said, I also understand that deep down we are all one family and preconceptions are only skin deep and often meaningless. Personally I believe to a greater or lesser extent that everyone is racist, many/most I’m sure would never admit it but if anyone wants to call me racist it really wouldn’t bother me because I am one.
Just to add as a footnote - I am ½ English, ¼ Irish. ¼ Black Caribbean and am married to a Jewish girl!

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 22 Aug 15 8.31pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.28pm Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground. I've been called a racist on Hol by several posters.....I've also called one poster a racist and another an antisemitic......While I've also at one point been called....rather amusingly antisemitic myself. I think it's at best avoided unless you are very sure.....Sometimes people just say stupid stuff....To really know you need time in debates.....Also....rather importantly you need to be fair minded yourself....Not common with some once the blood is up. Personally Sterling I don’t see what the big deal is with being called a racist is anyway. Now if someone called me pedo that would be different. Personally I would say that I am racist as I have pre-conceived ideas about races, am judgemental over race and also if I’m perfectly honest, prefer some races over others. That said, I also understand that deep down we are all one family and preconceptions are only skin deep and often meaningless. Personally I believe to a greater or lesser extent that everyone is racist, many/most I’m sure would never admit it but if anyone wants to call me racist it really wouldn’t bother me because I am one. Just to add as a footnote - I am ½ English, ¼ Irish. ¼ Black Caribbean and am married to a Jewish girl! .........and probably more Celtic than Kermy. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 22 Aug 15 8.31pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.28pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm

The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground.

.........and probably more Celtic than Kermy.

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Stirlingsays 22 Aug 15 8.44pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.28pm Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground. I've been called a racist on Hol by several posters.....I've also called one poster a racist and another an antisemitic......While I've also at one point been called....rather amusingly antisemitic myself. I think it's at best avoided unless you are very sure.....Sometimes people just say stupid stuff....To really know you need time in debates.....Also....rather importantly you need to be fair minded yourself....Not common with some once the blood is up. Personally Sterling I don’t see what the big deal is with being called a racist is anyway. Now if someone called me pedo that would be different. Personally I would say that I am racist as I have pre-conceived ideas about races, am judgemental over race and also if I’m perfectly honest, prefer some races over others. That said, I also understand that deep down we are all one family and preconceptions are only skin deep and often meaningless. Personally I believe to a greater or lesser extent that everyone is racist, many/most I’m sure would never admit it but if anyone wants to call me racist it really wouldn’t bother me because I am one. Just to add as a footnote - I am ½ English, ¼ Irish. ¼ Black Caribbean and am married to a Jewish girl! Surely instead of 'races' you mean 'cultures'? I agree that everyone has preferences in many different aspects. In terms of the racial sphere I wouldn't easily use the world 'racist' myself because it becomes an inarticulate device......This idea that someone's position is either 'racist' or 'non racist'.....Like everything in life real positions are on scales and not extremes. I think judging people over the hue of their skin makes no sense.....Also, everyone deserves a chance once you meet them......As I was brought up to believe....'treat everyone as well as you can the first time you meet them....after that, treat them how they treat you'. A racial aspect doesn't really fit with that.....However, I won't deny that I prefer my own culture and customs or similar ones to those that are significantly different to me. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Aug 15 8.44pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.28pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm

The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground.

Surely instead of 'races' you mean 'cultures'?

I agree that everyone has preferences in many different aspects. In terms of the racial sphere I wouldn't easily use the world 'racist' myself because it becomes an inarticulate device......This idea that someone's position is either 'racist' or 'non racist'.....Like everything in life real positions are on scales and not extremes.

I think judging people over the hue of their skin makes no sense.....Also, everyone deserves a chance once you meet them......As I was brought up to believe....'treat everyone as well as you can the first time you meet them....after that, treat them how they treat you'.

A racial aspect doesn't really fit with that.....However, I won't deny that I prefer my own culture and customs or similar ones to those that are significantly different to me.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 22 Aug 15 8.48pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.44pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.28pm Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground. I've been called a racist on Hol by several posters.....I've also called one poster a racist and another an antisemitic......While I've also at one point been called....rather amusingly antisemitic myself. I think it's at best avoided unless you are very sure.....Sometimes people just say stupid stuff....To really know you need time in debates.....Also....rather importantly you need to be fair minded yourself....Not common with some once the blood is up. Personally Sterling I don’t see what the big deal is with being called a racist is anyway. Now if someone called me pedo that would be different. Personally I would say that I am racist as I have pre-conceived ideas about races, am judgemental over race and also if I’m perfectly honest, prefer some races over others. That said, I also understand that deep down we are all one family and preconceptions are only skin deep and often meaningless. Personally I believe to a greater or lesser extent that everyone is racist, many/most I’m sure would never admit it but if anyone wants to call me racist it really wouldn’t bother me because I am one. Just to add as a footnote - I am ½ English, ¼ Irish. ¼ Black Caribbean and am married to a Jewish girl! Surely instead of 'races' you mean 'cultures'? I agree that everyone has preferences in many different aspects. In terms of the racial sphere I wouldn't easily use the world 'racist' myself because it becomes an inarticulate device......This idea that someone's position is either 'racist' or 'non racist'.....Like everything in life real positions are on scales and not extremes. I think judging people over the hue of their skin makes no sense.....Also, everyone deserves a chance once you meet them......As I was brought up to believe....'treat everyone as well as you can the first time you meet them....after that, treat them how they treat you'. A racial aspect doesn't really fit with that.....However, I won't deny that I prefer my own culture and customs or similar ones to those that are significantly different to me. I know they’re not really ‘race’ but I’ve never been fond of the Welsh "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 22 Aug 15 8.48pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.44pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.28pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.12pm

The point 'racism' judgement should be careful ground.

Surely instead of 'races' you mean 'cultures'?

A racial aspect doesn't really fit with that.....However, I won't deny that I prefer my own culture and customs or similar ones to those that are significantly different to me.

I know they’re not really ‘race’ but I’ve never been fond of the Welsh

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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leggedstruggle Croydon 22 Aug 15 8.55pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.14pm I'm disappointed that the 'Judge' is no longer with us. As far as I could see he was a bloody good poster. I agree with you Stirling - people disappear from here quicker than Kim Jong-il's relatives. Judged to be too non-PC presumably. mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 22 Aug 15 8.55pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.14pm

I'm disappointed that the 'Judge' is no longer with us.

As far as I could see he was a bloody good poster.

I agree with you Stirling - people disappear from here quicker than Kim Jong-il's relatives. Judged to be too non-PC presumably.

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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Stirlingsays 22 Aug 15 8.57pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.48pm I know they’re not really ‘race’ but I’ve never been fond of the Welsh I had a 'thing' for Ruth Madoc of Hi De Hi growing up. Ah the simple lustful days of my youth. Attachment: mHvobk6YX7PaWJc9jqP3D3A.jpg (9.11Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Aug 15 8.57pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 22 Aug 2015 8.48pm

I know they’re not really ‘race’ but I’ve never been fond of the Welsh

I had a 'thing' for Ruth Madoc of Hi De Hi growing up.

Ah the simple lustful days of my youth.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 22 Aug 15 9.00pm
Quote leggedstruggle at 22 Aug 2015 8.55pm Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.14pm I'm disappointed that the 'Judge' is no longer with us. As far as I could see he was a bloody good poster. I agree with you Stirling - people disappear from here quicker than Kim Jong-il's relatives. Judged to be too non-PC presumably. Yeah he came up with some good posts.
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Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 22 Aug 15 9.00pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 22 Aug 2015 8.55pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 22 Aug 2015 8.14pm

I'm disappointed that the 'Judge' is no longer with us.

As far as I could see he was a bloody good poster.

I agree with you Stirling - people disappear from here quicker than Kim Jong-il's relatives. Judged to be too non-PC presumably.

Yeah he came up with some good posts.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Aug 15 9.01pm
Is someone directly calls you a racist, please hit the 'report thread to moderator', and I'll take a look, and discuss it with the other moderators. Similarly if anyone regards a post as directly racist, offensive or personal, report the thread and we'll take a look. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 22 Aug 15 9.01pm

Is someone directly calls you a racist, please hit the 'report thread to moderator', and I'll take a look, and discuss it with the other moderators. Similarly if anyone regards a post as directly racist, offensive or personal, report the thread and we'll take a look.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 22 Aug 15 9.15pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Aug 2015 9.01pm Is someone directly calls you a racist, please hit the 'report thread to moderator', and I'll take a look, and discuss it with the other moderators. Similarly if anyone regards a post as directly racist, offensive or personal, report the thread and we'll take a look. I just directly called myself a racist Jamie - does that count? "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 22 Aug 15 9.15pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Aug 2015 9.01pm

I just directly called myself a racist Jamie - does that count?

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