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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 13 May 21 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Kant

I’m no fan of Lampard, but in fairness to him he did give debuts to no fewer than 8 academy players: Armando Broja, Mason Mount, Reece James, Billy Gilmour, Tino Anjorin, Ian Maatsen, Tariq Lamptey and Marc Gueh.

But do we have a supply of Gilmours, James and Mounts waiting in the wings? I suspect not. In which case the much vaunted youth appeal of Lampard is an irrelevance.



The under 18s are top of premier league south so we must have a few decent ones

 


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Putitout Flag Oxford 13 May 21 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Might that be why Hodgson is stalling on a new contract? IMO:
a) either Hodgson has been offered a contract but is stalling for some reason (and it may be that he knows that even he can't do another successful season with the squad he's got, and he's wanting cast-iron assurances that there will be a decent transfer kitty this time round)
or
b) he hasn't been offered one and will be leaving in which case SP will already have someone lined up or there are at least one or more candidates he's talked to.


I’m thinking, that Hodgson, is stalling . Because it remains to be seen where the club is going. By what he has said, there is no certainty in what the club is going to be doing regards the future. He knows ,we all know, that some will be going, the fact is some need to go, so it’s bad news if they didn’t.
But the big outstanding question for him, is then what? And that applies to any body else who fancies a go at keeping Palace in the Premier league.
If Palace have the means to finance a realistic program to actually progress the club then I reckon Frank, would be a decent choice, able to attract the right type of young players, by purchase, or loan. But if it’s a case of more of the same , filling the holes good enough to scramble to another few seasons in the big time, then it’s only a Hodgson type that might want the job, and he is as good as anybody else if that’s the case. The problem then is, has he had enough of not even getting what he thinks is good enough to survive without the relegation fight that will come if they get this wrong.? Whether he runs things or not. The fact is he has asked for more than he ended with every year so far , it would be no surprise if he wanted more assurances of a definite up grade this year before committing any further.
If Hodgson, hasn’t been offered a contract, and the club continues to have no better outlook concerning the acquisition of a better ,younger squad, then I can only see a has been manager wanting this job, no real risk for their future.
Without some substantial input to the playing staff, it’s possible they will talk to the Lampards of this world , but if he, or they should bite it would put their futures on a type rope.

Edited by Putitout (13 May 2021 4.00pm)

 

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Uphill Flag Bedford 13 May 21 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Apart from being a northerner, surely Dyche is the best candidate. I guess Frank will get Parish more TV time though.

Depends what you mean by 'a northerner' - he was born in Kettering, Northamptonshire, not even north of Watford Gap !

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 May 21 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Maybe not. I think the takeover involved a lot of debt so Burnley's transfer purse might just be even smaller than ours!

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 May 21 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Might that be why Hodgson is stalling on a new contract? IMO:
a) either Hodgson has been offered a contract but is stalling for some reason (and it may be that he knows that even he can't do another successful season with the squad he's got, and he's wanting cast-iron assurances that there will be a decent transfer kitty this time round)
or
b) he hasn't been offered one and will be leaving in which case SP will already have someone lined up or there are at least one or more candidates he's talked to.

Or SP wants a change but if nothing materialises Roy knows he is the fall back plan

 

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jeeagles Flag 13 May 21 5.10pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Or SP wants a change but if nothing materialises Roy knows he is the fall back plan

Would suspect it is more likely to be this.

Most pundits seem to be of the opinion that Parish can't work out weather he should stick with a low risk manager with no aspirations or to seek a better manager elsewhere.

One reason why Hodgson has lasted so long is possibly because Parish doesn't want to be the man that sacks the oldest ever premier league manager. Another is that it costs a lot of money to sack and recruit managers.

It looks like we'll finish the season on 41 points, a terrible season but thankfully Sheffield United, West Brom, and Fulham were worse. A manager on that total will definitely not be stalling for a new contract if he wants a job next season.

With fans back in the ground, we will need a manager who's slightly more aspiration than just being better than the bottom 3.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 13 May 21 5.28pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Or SP wants a change but if nothing materialises Roy knows he is the fall back plan

This is precisely what I suspect, and fair play to Parish for putting the club first by exploring all options even if it is a bit rude to Roy.

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 13 May 21 5.38pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Would suspect it is more likely to be this.

Most pundits seem to be of the opinion that Parish can't work out weather he should stick with a low risk manager with no aspirations or to seek a better manager elsewhere.

One reason why Hodgson has lasted so long is possibly because Parish doesn't want to be the man that sacks the oldest ever premier league manager. Another is that it costs a lot of money to sack and recruit managers.

It looks like we'll finish the season on 41 points, a terrible season but thankfully Sheffield United, West Brom, and Fulham were worse. A manager on that total will definitely not be stalling for a new contract if he wants a job next season.

With fans back in the ground, we will need a manager who's slightly more aspiration than just being better than the bottom 3.

To be fair, as things stand Brighton, Newcastle and Southampton are worse as well. Could change of course !
And I find some irony that in a results business, Potter is being hailed as the Next Big Thing while Hodgson is treated with such contempt by a percentage of his clubs fans.

We have had this debate before in terms of aspirations, but the pundits have said it, Roy has said it, Parish has said it - first priority is to stay in the League. That's the ' Tone From The Top ' and reflects the approach we see on the pitch.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 13 May 21 5.43pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

This is precisely what I suspect, and fair play to Parish for putting the club first by exploring all options even if it is a bit rude to Roy.

If you dismiss the '' Lampard seen at training ground '' BS, is there any tangible proof that we are even looking for another manager ?

It's a fact that Hodgson will be out of contract, but he himself has ( correctly in my view ) been unwilling to discuss that situation while this season is still in flight. And so the Media are having a field day with the constant speculation around something that may not even happen.

 


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Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 13 May 21 6.00pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Not following the why would Dyche leave Burnley for Palace mindset.
We have so much scope to to progress as a club. He is ambitious and cant fail to see the Palace set could be the perfect set up for him.
Give DF your preferred targets and let him get on with it whilst Dyche can focus on the team and oversight of the impressive academy.
Plus the expansion (fingers crossed) of the stadium - loads
more going for us than Burnley - who without Dyche would not be premier league club. Everything is Bargain basement they don’t pay £29 million quid transfer fees and £100k per week + wages. (Not that I agree with that mind you) but we are a step up as a club - on the pitch is a much more even comparison - and that can only be as a result of Dyche being an excellent manager.

 

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Originally posted by NEILLO

If you dismiss the '' Lampard seen at training ground '' BS, is there any tangible proof that we are even looking for another manager ?

It's a fact that Hodgson will be out of contract, but he himself has ( correctly in my view ) been unwilling to discuss that situation while this season is still in flight. And so the Media are having a field day with the constant speculation around something that may not even happen.

Agree with your last 2 posts NEILLO.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 13 May 21 6.24pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

If you dismiss the '' Lampard seen at training ground '' BS, is there any tangible proof that we are even looking for another manager ?

It's a fact that Hodgson will be out of contract, but he himself has ( correctly in my view ) been unwilling to discuss that situation while this season is still in flight. And so the Media are having a field day with the constant speculation around something that may not even happen.

I'm not sure I buy this idea that Hodgson isn't fussed to speak to the club until this season is over. He's been perfectly happy to discuss a new contract mid season before.

For me the proof (well, perhaps more a strong indication than actual proof) that the club are looking at alternatives is that they haven't just extended the employment of the man in the dugout.

 

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