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AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 15 Sep 21 1.55pm | |
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The best striker of the ball as Roy picked in his squad - And didn’t pick a corner taker. Bloody hell, this is like trying to debate with Dianne Abbot. This the same Diane Abbott that went to Cambridge. You could have called out Priti awful for same.
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AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 15 Sep 21 2.00pm | |
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Originally posted by MARKY
I watched the Everton Game Townsend looks like he's lost a stone in weight it shows the fat t*** was just going through the motions at Palace But no let's blame Roy!
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Palace in the Blood 15 Sep 21 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
But no let's blame Roy! We will never know what Roy would have done if he had money to spend or what PV would have done with the aging squad we had last year so cany comparison is impossible. Roy had a job to do which was keep club in EPL with very little spend until high wage owners could be allowed to leave. He did this , we all accept the football was dire at times but I feel this was necessity not his aim. If you listen to pros who have played for Roy they all mention his man management skills and his attention to detail. Townsend has started well for Everton but he has always had purple patches let see if it lasts. I think he was offered a new contract at Palace but on less wages so he decided as is his right to move on, Good luck to him. The fact is our wage bill was paralysing club and stopping us moving forward. The players who extended have all accepted lower money than before. As a club we can not afford players on more than 100k per week
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Goal Machine The Cronx 15 Sep 21 3.46pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I don't disagree with most of your points. I do think "fantastic" is an exaggeration, just look at the teams that went down. And Hodgson isn't someone I'd trust with a warchest to rebuilt a squad, especially as retirement was always a likelihood in the very near future. It's fair comment to say we did just enough to get where we needed to with a team of experienced professionals and a formulaic approach. There were many, many shortfalls in the approach which were incredibly frustrating to watch. When posters ignore all arguments, won't admit to the slightest fault, and start with petty digs, I think they deserve a bit of a wind up or dressing down. What kind of adult ends a post with "end of" too? Always, a sign of stupidity. It was the 2017/18 season when we had the above mentioned names and Roy steered us from rock bottom with 0 points, 0 goals and no morale after 3 games to finish 11th (our highest finish in the Prem). A few highlights of the season were beating Leicester 8-0 on aggregate and 0-0 against the unstoppable Man City which we almost nicked at the end. I think 'fantastic' is a fair assessment for a few of those performances. Agree that Hodgson couldn't be trusted with the money but only because of his age and impending retirement. A younger manager was needed to see us through the transition. If Roy was 15 years younger I'd trust him 100% because he's a proven top class manager. His lack of substitutions towards the end was frustrating, however, did we ever have any game changers on the bench? It was mostly journeyman midfields and defenders making up the numbers. He recognised that we would struggle to score so he had us well drilled to make ourselves hard to beat. His brief was to keep us up on a shoestring budget and he achieved it comfortably every season. He will go down in history as a Palace hero for successfully navigating us through a tough period. We are where we are now because of Roy. He's paved the way for PV to take us to the next level (before he moves to Arsenal!).
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bicycle repair man 15 Sep 21 4.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
It was the 2017/18 season when we had the above mentioned names and Roy steered us from rock bottom with 0 points, 0 goals and no morale after 3 games to finish 11th (our highest finish in the Prem). A few highlights of the season were beating Leicester 8-0 on aggregate and 0-0 against the unstoppable Man City which we almost nicked at the end. I think 'fantastic' is a fair assessment for a few of those performances. Agree that Hodgson couldn't be trusted with the money but only because of his age and impending retirement. A younger manager was needed to see us through the transition. If Roy was 15 years younger I'd trust him 100% because he's a proven top class manager. His lack of substitutions towards the end was frustrating, however, did we ever have any game changers on the bench? It was mostly journeyman midfields and defenders making up the numbers. He recognised that we would struggle to score so he had us well drilled to make ourselves hard to beat. His brief was to keep us up on a shoestring budget and he achieved it comfortably every season. He will go down in history as a Palace hero for successfully navigating us through a tough period. We are where we are now because of Roy. He's paved the way for PV to take us to the next level (before he moves to Arsenal!). That is a fair and honest assessment of Roy's vital contribution to CPFC.
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taylors lovechild 15 Sep 21 4.06pm | |
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Personally I think Andros needed a change as much as we did as fans. Neither he nor the team had really put in more than one or two great performances for at least 18 months and his shooting and passing had been pretty woeful for a long while. We can analyse tactics all we want, but last season he often struggled to find his man from 10-yards away and he rarely got a shot on target. He's moved on and so have we. I think the one regret is how badly the club seemed to manage his exit and how public he made that. Personally I'm thankful for Roy finally bringing stability to the club, but equally glad that he's now gone. Of our long-term servants I'm sure many agree, with Zaha even smiling again.
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bicycle repair man 15 Sep 21 4.08pm | |
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Originally posted by MARKY
I watched the Everton Game Townsend looks like he's lost a stone in weight it shows the fat t*** was just going through the motions at Palace
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southnorwoodhill 15 Sep 21 4.09pm | |
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I think he will fizzle out as the season goes on. Not a player I disliked though, but things have to move on and times change.
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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 15 Sep 21 4.39pm | |
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Originally posted by MARKY
I watched the Everton Game Townsend looks like he's lost a stone in weight it shows the fat t*** was just going through the motions at Palace In his entire career I've never looked at Townsend and felt he was carrying to much weight, especially in his time with us. Not sure where you've got that idea.
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EddieMac 15 Sep 21 5.23pm | |
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An assist and a great goal and all of a sudden letting Townsend go is the greatest mistake Palace have a ever made. Townsend is a decent player but he is not going to be missed. Move on folks.
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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 15 Sep 21 5.45pm | |
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Indeed he’s moved on and we’ve moved on. I hope he does well personally but I hope we do better collectively.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Sep 21 6.09pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Ohhh, finally a genuine rebuttal, but with a disingenuous answer. How is stating that Roy wouldn't play Gallagher nonsense? Roy turned Gallagher down for a striker that he didn't play! Kane failed to find an England player in the area with 5 out of 6 of the corners he took. Hodgson has one of the most dangerous players in the world at his disposal and could have picked any English player to simply get the ball to him. Instead, he chose to take away our most dangerous threat, and rely on the limited aerial threat of Chris Smalling instead. This is the problem with Roy's support base, they see him as immune from criticism, yet dodge any discussions about his decision making ability. Roy came up with a simple, tedious, formula, that was enough to get by. It didn't get the best out of players, and was found wanting in many areas. It worked in the short term, producing average results, but in the long term no more than managing a slow decline. Townsend and Palace players have shown huge signs of improvement without him. I'd like to leave you alone, your debate skills are so terrible I have no other option but to drum home the bleeding obvious. Honestly, I think it's best you give up? Or just dont be a dick in your replies.
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