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AERO 17 Feb 21 4.07pm | |
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And also hopefully have our better players back.
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TheBigToePunt 17 Feb 21 4.18pm | |
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Originally posted by nectoneagle
Just an observation but following the W.Brom fixture we have a 2 week gap in fixtures. Good point, We will certainly know more about where we are by that point, and clubs have certainly used such long breaks to make changes before.
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PatrickA London 18 Feb 21 11.15am | |
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Steve Coppell was a guest on a podcast a few days ago and is of the opinion that to have any chance of succeeding in football management as a minimum there are two prerequisites,
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southnorwoodhill 18 Feb 21 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Steve Coppell was a guest on a podcast a few days ago and is of the opinion that to have any chance of succeeding in football management as a minimum there are two prerequisites, Perhaps this explains Hodgson's acquisitions, players who are over the hill or didn't add anything significant to the technical ability of the squad, namely Cahill, McCarthy, and Kouyate. All three unnecessary yet reflect Hodgson's defensive approach to game management. Let's not even go there with Sorloth.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Feb 21 12.22pm | |
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Unsubstantiated bollocks.
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TheBigToePunt 18 Feb 21 12.24pm | |
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They always used to say that a manager stood or fell by his recruitment, and that tactics were secondary. I'm not sure you can say that any more, as there really isn't such a thing as a manager now, just a first team coach who has little or nothing to do with recruitment. I'd be very surprised if Hodgson identified transfer targets at all. Every transfer window he tells the press that he hopes the club will improve the squad, but never mentions having identified targets. He probably highlights weak positions, if that. Even klopp has been quite clear that whether Liverpool signed the new centre half he so desperately needed wasn't up to him. Dyche looks like he has a say in the running of Burnley, but not enough to get the club to extend the contracts of several players he clearly wanted to keep last summer, so even he doesn't have any real clout. Funny enough, the only guy I can think of who seemed to have something close to final say on signings recently was Howe at Bournemouth, but on reflection that's just a presumption. Either way, he had very mixed results, and we have a director of football at Palace, so I'd reckon the next managers recruitment record wouldn't matter as much as his ability to use a system that gets enough points to keep us up (preferably comfortably), and get the best out of whatever squad he'll inherit, and to develop individuals, especially young ones. If it's possible to do all three at the same time, which it might not be. Dyche ticks the first box with his eyes closed, but the only players he developed into valuable assets were central defenders and goalkeepers.
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Putitout Oxford 18 Feb 21 12.35pm | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Perhaps this explains Hodgson's acquisitions, players who are over the hill or didn't add anything significant to the technical ability of the squad, namely Cahill, McCarthy, and Kouyate. All three unnecessary yet reflect Hodgson's defensive approach to game management. Let's not even go there with Sorloth. Edited by southnorwoodhill (18 Feb 2021 11.49am) This is the problem, they might seem to reflect Hodgsons approach,
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JRW2 Dulwich 18 Feb 21 12.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Unsubstantiated bollocks. Interesting opinion. But to which bollocks are you referring?
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Putitout Oxford 18 Feb 21 12.52pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
They always used to say that a manager stood or fell by his recruitment, and that tactics were secondary. I'm not sure you can say that any more, as there really isn't such a thing as a manager now, just a first team coach who has little or nothing to do with recruitment. I'd be very surprised if Hodgson identified transfer targets at all. Every transfer window he tells the press that he hopes the club will improve the squad, but never mentions having identified targets. He probably highlights weak positions, if that. Even klopp has been quite clear that whether Liverpool signed the new centre half he so desperately needed wasn't up to him. Dyche looks like he has a say in the running of Burnley, but not enough to get the club to extend the contracts of several players he clearly wanted to keep last summer, so even he doesn't have any real clout. Funny enough, the only guy I can think of who seemed to have something close to final say on signings recently was Howe at Bournemouth, but on reflection that's just a presumption. Either way, he had very mixed results, and we have a director of football at Palace, so I'd reckon the next managers recruitment record wouldn't matter as much as his ability to use a system that gets enough points to keep us up (preferably comfortably), and get the best out of whatever squad he'll inherit, and to develop individuals, especially young ones. If it's possible to do all three at the same time, which it might not be. Dyche ticks the first box with his eyes closed, but the only players he developed into valuable assets were central defenders and goalkeepers. It would seem to me everybody at the club knows it’s financial limitations, and what that means. It means we can only make sure we stay in the division, as relegation could be a disaster.
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southnorwoodhill 18 Feb 21 1.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
This is the problem, they might seem to reflect Hodgsons approach, Yes, exactly this. A hopefully short term plan to see us through. Somehow I suspect this is why Parish put such a high price on Zaha's head, to deter interested parties, knowing without Wilf we would be relegation fodder. Now let's imagine we need 4 players in key positions of the calibre and potential of Eze, what's that going to cost? Money we don't appear to have, and if we did, who would it be entrusted to? We have a history of questionable signings. A tricky one for whoever suceeds Hodgson.
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jeeagles 18 Feb 21 1.27pm | |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
Perhaps this explains Hodgson's acquisitions, players who are over the hill or didn't add anything significant to the technical ability of the squad, namely Cahill, McCarthy, and Kouyate. All three unnecessary yet reflect Hodgson's defensive approach to game management. Let's not even go there with Sorloth. Edited by southnorwoodhill (18 Feb 2021 11.49am) I've seen interviews with Coppell and Redknapp faily recently saying recruitment is 90% of what a manger has to do. Coppell said he and Noades used to drive around the country every night of the week to try and find the right players to fit in the team. Hodgson seems to be pretty passive on the whole situation. Regardless of what the situation is, Hodgson doesn't seem particularly interested in the transfer side of things. I was another talk by Clive Woodward a few years ago. He said players where experts in their positions, you have to listen to them as well as instruct them and put them in positions where they know exactly what to do, instinctively, under any scenario. Hodgson simply tries to shoe horn players into 4-4-2. Take PVA on the left wing against Leeds. The guy isn't a left winger, no amount of watching games can make you sharp enough to start playing in a role you aren't used to, hence why he looked like a deer in headlights chasing the game. That's exactly what you want to here from Cooper. Then again FdB said all the right things and did something completely different.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 18 Feb 21 2.31pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I've seen interviews with Coppell and Redknapp faily recently saying recruitment is 90% of what a manger has to do. Coppell said he and Noades used to drive around the country every night of the week to try and find the right players to fit in the team. Hodgson seems to be pretty passive on the whole situation. Regardless of what the situation is, Hodgson doesn't seem particularly interested in the transfer side of things. I was another talk by Clive Woodward a few years ago. He said players where experts in their positions, you have to listen to them as well as instruct them and put them in positions where they know exactly what to do, instinctively, under any scenario. Hodgson simply tries to shoe horn players into 4-4-2. Take PVA on the left wing against Leeds. The guy isn't a left winger, no amount of watching games can make you sharp enough to start playing in a role you aren't used to, hence why he looked like a deer in headlights chasing the game. That's exactly what you want to here from Cooper. Then again FdB said all the right things and did something completely different. So they did - and Ron knew a player when he saw one. But that was then, this is now and our transfer market is vastly different. As is our recruitment model. The Manager doesn't have that level of involvement at Palace now.
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