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Tickled pink Cornwall 03 Nov 20 5.20pm
Originally posted by viveasheagle Interesting debate. I was impressed when by Eze in first couple of games with his shimmies and that he looked to find a forward pass. A few games in and the shimmies have not changed and whilst he has not been bad he is not influencing the games from the sub's bench in a way that say to the manager you can't leave me out next time. Schlupp has his critics but he is strong quick and direct plus good in the air. Our results in general are better when Schlupp plays. Correct.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 03 Nov 20 5.20pm

Originally posted by viveasheagle

Interesting debate. I was impressed when by Eze in first couple of games with his shimmies and that he looked to find a forward pass. A few games in and the shimmies have not changed and whilst he has not been bad he is not influencing the games from the sub's bench in a way that say to the manager you can't leave me out next time. Schlupp has his critics but he is strong quick and direct plus good in the air. Our results in general are better when Schlupp plays.

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PatrickA London 06 Nov 20 7.40pm
Today’s press conference reaffirmed where Eze stands in the pecking order. In the near term Roy made it clear that Eze is competing with Schlupp for the left sided midfield role. He went on to suggest that Townsend was in fine form on the right . It’s almost as if he sees Eze’s role as keeping both players on their toes. I’m concerned that a pattern is emerging here. Eze is not a winger and this experiment is doomed to failure. Play him in his correct position .
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PatrickA

London 06 Nov 20 7.40pm

Today’s press conference reaffirmed where Eze stands in the pecking order.
In the near term Roy made it clear that Eze is competing with Schlupp for the left sided midfield role.
He went on to suggest that Townsend was in fine form on the right .
It’s almost as if he sees Eze’s role as keeping both players on their toes.
I’m concerned that a pattern is emerging here.
Eze is not a winger and this experiment is doomed to failure.
Play him in his correct position .

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 07 Nov 20 8.52am
Originally posted by PatrickA Today’s press conference reaffirmed where Eze stands in the pecking order. In the near term Roy made it clear that Eze is competing with Schlupp for the left sided midfield role. He went on to suggest that Townsend was in fine form on the right . It’s almost as if he sees Eze’s role as keeping both players on their toes. I’m concerned that a pattern is emerging here. Eze is not a winger and this experiment is doomed to failure. Play him in his correct position . Stupid comments from Roy. He clearly didn’t want him and was not his choice if that’s what he believes. Eze is competing with Schlupp?? We all knew this would happen. I’ve resigned to the fact we’ve got Roy and nothing will change until he’s gone. Can you imagine if we had signed Benrahma or Sarr would have been the same lame excuses as to why he can’t play players. Actually fed up to the back teeth of his prehistoric football. Parish and Dougie need to take ownership of this situation .. money wasted on Camarasa, Meyer and potentially Eze. Why are we signing these type of players! We all know Roy doesn’t want them- how can there be such a disconnect. If Jairo is anything to go by maybe we’ll see Eze flourish in 2 years time.. Edited by MonsterMunch (07 Nov 2020 8.56am)
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MonsterMunch

Cambridge 07 Nov 20 8.52am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Stupid comments from Roy. He clearly didn’t want him and was not his choice if that’s what he believes. Eze is competing with Schlupp?? We all knew this would happen. I’ve resigned to the fact we’ve got Roy and nothing will change until he’s gone.

Can you imagine if we had signed Benrahma or Sarr would have been the same lame excuses as to why he can’t play players. Actually fed up to the back teeth of his prehistoric football.

Parish and Dougie need to take ownership of this situation .. money wasted on Camarasa, Meyer and potentially Eze. Why are we signing these type of players! We all know Roy doesn’t want them- how can there be such a disconnect. If Jairo is anything to go by maybe we’ll see Eze flourish in 2 years time..

Edited by MonsterMunch (07 Nov 2020 8.56am)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 20 9.06am
Originally posted by MonsterMunch Stupid comments from Roy. He clearly didn’t want him and was not his choice if that’s what he believes. Eze is competing with Schlupp?? We all knew this would happen. I’ve resigned to the fact we’ve got Roy and nothing will change until he’s gone. Can you imagine if we had signed Benrahma or Sarr would have been the same lame excuses as to why he can’t play players. Actually fed up to the back teeth of his prehistoric football. Parish and Dougie need to take ownership of this situation .. money wasted on Camarasa, Meyer and potentially Eze. Why are we signing these type of players! We all know Roy doesn’t want them- how can there be such a disconnect. If Jairo is anything to go by maybe we’ll see Eze flourish in 2 years time.. Edited by MonsterMunch (07 Nov 2020 8.56am) I have heard umpteen such sentiments about the style of football under Hodgson but in the final analysis he has ensured we have stayed in the PL for 3 seasons and this could well extend to 4 seasons. I agree with your sentiments concerning Benrahma and Sarr.My view is that Benrahma would have suffered the same fate as Eze and the same for Sarr who is deployed mainly on the right and Townsend would have been preferred to him. I very much suspect that Batshuayi is only playing because Ayew has been unavailable.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 20 9.06am

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Can you imagine if we had signed Benrahma or Sarr would have been the same lame excuses as to why he can’t play players. Actually fed up to the back teeth of his prehistoric football.

Parish and Dougie need to take ownership of this situation .. money wasted on Camarasa, Meyer and potentially Eze. Why are we signing these type of players! We all know Roy doesn’t want them- how can there be such a disconnect. If Jairo is anything to go by maybe we’ll see Eze flourish in 2 years time..

Edited by MonsterMunch (07 Nov 2020 8.56am)

I have heard umpteen such sentiments about the style of football under Hodgson but in the final analysis he has ensured we have stayed in the PL for 3 seasons and this could well extend to 4 seasons.

I agree with your sentiments concerning Benrahma and Sarr.My view is that Benrahma would have suffered the same fate as Eze and the same for Sarr who is deployed mainly on the right and Townsend would have been preferred to him. I very much suspect that Batshuayi is only playing because Ayew has been unavailable.

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 07 Nov 20 9.21am
Originally posted by Willo I have heard umpteen such sentiments about the style of football under Hodgson but in the final analysis he has ensured we have stayed in the PL for 3 seasons and this could well extend to 4 seasons. I agree with your sentiments concerning Benrahma and Sarr.My view is that Benrahma would have suffered the same fate as Eze and the same for Sarr who is deployed mainly on the right and Townsend would have been preferred to him. I very much suspect that Batshuayi is only playing because Ayew has been unavailable. Of course this is true and the usual charlton syndrome comments will be peddled, however this is not how football should be played. Ripping the excitement and passion from the game. This is not palace. I aspire for more from my club. No self entitlement here just higher aspirations and the belief he could be doing more with what he has. It’s early days with Eze, but the signs are already there, another attack minded player being criminally unused. This lad is such a talent. Hope Roy doesn’t ruin him.
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MonsterMunch

Cambridge 07 Nov 20 9.21am

Originally posted by Willo

I have heard umpteen such sentiments about the style of football under Hodgson but in the final analysis he has ensured we have stayed in the PL for 3 seasons and this could well extend to 4 seasons.

Of course this is true and the usual charlton syndrome comments will be peddled, however this is not how football should be played. Ripping the excitement and passion from the game. This is not palace. I aspire for more from my club. No self entitlement here just higher aspirations and the belief he could be doing more with what he has. It’s early days with Eze, but the signs are already there, another attack minded player being criminally unused. This lad is such a talent. Hope Roy doesn’t ruin him.

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southnorwoodhill 07 Nov 20 9.30am
Originally posted by Willo I have heard umpteen such sentiments about the style of football under Hodgson but in the final analysis he has ensured we have stayed in the PL for 3 seasons and this could well extend to 4 seasons. I agree with your sentiments concerning Benrahma and Sarr.My view is that Benrahma would have suffered the same fate as Eze and the same for Sarr who is deployed mainly on the right and Townsend would have been preferred to him. I very much suspect that Batshuayi is only playing because Ayew has been unavailable. Nonetheless I think you will agree that there is a massive disconnect between the flair players mentioned and Hodgson's own football philosophy. To turn Eze into a Schlupp doesn't bode well. As someone mentioned, the next manager is going to have a big job turning round years of Hodgson's catenaccio tactics, instilling a more balanced approach between attack and defence. Which brings me back to the first point: why do we bring in talented offensive minded players who only end up spending time on the bench, or shoe-horned into Hodgson's system, usually in a position that is not natural to them? I presume ultimately it is SP who signs the cheque, surely by now he must be wondering what is going on? Edited by southnorwoodhill (07 Nov 2020 9.39am)
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Originally posted by Willo

I have heard umpteen such sentiments about the style of football under Hodgson but in the final analysis he has ensured we have stayed in the PL for 3 seasons and this could well extend to 4 seasons.

Nonetheless I think you will agree that there is a massive disconnect between the flair players mentioned and Hodgson's own football philosophy. To turn Eze into a Schlupp doesn't bode well. As someone mentioned, the next manager is going to have a big job turning round years of Hodgson's catenaccio tactics, instilling a more balanced approach between attack and defence. Which brings me back to the first point: why do we bring in talented offensive minded players who only end up spending time on the bench, or shoe-horned into Hodgson's system, usually in a position that is not natural to them?
I presume ultimately it is SP who signs the cheque, surely by now he must be wondering what is going on?

Edited by southnorwoodhill (07 Nov 2020 9.39am)

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 20 9.41am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Nonetheless I think you will agree that there is a massive disconnect between the flair players mentioned and Hodgson's own football philosophy. To turn Eze into a Schlupp doesn't bode well. As someone mentioned, the next manager is going to have a big job turning round years of Hodgson's catenaccio tactics, instilling a more balanced approach between attack and defence. Which brings me back to the first point: why do we bring in talented offensive minded players who only end up spending time on the bench? I presume ultimately it is SP who signs the cheque, surely by now he must be wondering what is going on? Apropos Eze, I saw him plough his furrow for QPR and I simply could not see him fitting into the team under Hodgson.I had similar thoughts about Benrahma. John Lundstram of Sheff Utd could well be available in January and he is far more suited to 'Roy ball' than Eze or Benrahma. I suspect, Hodgson would have far preferred that we signed a genuine 'Target man' rather than Batshuayi.Might have had a celebration if we lured Giroud or Carroll !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 20 9.41am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Nonetheless I think you will agree that there is a massive disconnect between the flair players mentioned and Hodgson's own football philosophy. To turn Eze into a Schlupp doesn't bode well. As someone mentioned, the next manager is going to have a big job turning round years of Hodgson's catenaccio tactics, instilling a more balanced approach between attack and defence. Which brings me back to the first point: why do we bring in talented offensive minded players who only end up spending time on the bench? I presume ultimately it is SP who signs the cheque, surely by now he must be wondering what is going on?

Apropos Eze, I saw him plough his furrow for QPR and I simply could not see him fitting into the team under Hodgson.I had similar thoughts about Benrahma.

John Lundstram of Sheff Utd could well be available in January and he is far more suited to 'Roy ball' than Eze or Benrahma.

I suspect, Hodgson would have far preferred that we signed a genuine 'Target man' rather than Batshuayi.Might have had a celebration if we lured Giroud or Carroll !

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Jacey 07 Nov 20 12.40pm
Originally posted by Willo Apropos Eze, I saw him plough his furrow for QPR and I simply could not see him fitting into the team under Hodgson.I had similar thoughts about Benrahma. John Lundstram of Sheff Utd could well be available in January and he is far more suited to 'Roy ball' than Eze or Benrahma. I suspect, Hodgson would have far preferred that we signed a genuine 'Target man' rather than Batshuayi.Might have had a celebration if we lured Giroud or Carroll ! Roy's brief,is to somehow keep us up for yet another season,nothing more,nothing less. What a complete bore.
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Jacey

07 Nov 20 12.40pm

Originally posted by Willo

Apropos Eze, I saw him plough his furrow for QPR and I simply could not see him fitting into the team under Hodgson.I had similar thoughts about Benrahma.

John Lundstram of Sheff Utd could well be available in January and he is far more suited to 'Roy ball' than Eze or Benrahma.

I suspect, Hodgson would have far preferred that we signed a genuine 'Target man' rather than Batshuayi.Might have had a celebration if we lured Giroud or Carroll !

Roy's brief,is to somehow keep us up for yet another season,nothing more,nothing less.
What a complete bore.

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JRW2 Dulwich 07 Nov 20 2.02pm
Originally posted by MonsterMunch Stupid comments from Roy. He clearly didn’t want him Edited by MonsterMunch (07 Nov 2020 8.56am) Ok, I've quoted just half of one sentence from MM's post. But the theme of the manager not wanting the players we sign has been emerging on this site for months. Does anyone have evidence to support that idea? If so, then Parish is presiding over the running of a madhouse. While he's at it, why doesn't he remove from Roy the responsibilty for team selection and tactics? At last that might bring some consistency to the whole operation.
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JRW2

Dulwich 07 Nov 20 2.02pm

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Stupid comments from Roy. He clearly didn’t want him

Edited by MonsterMunch (07 Nov 2020 8.56am)

Ok, I've quoted just half of one sentence from MM's post. But the theme of the manager not wanting the players we sign has been emerging on this site for months. Does anyone have evidence to support that idea? If so, then Parish is presiding over the running of a madhouse. While he's at it, why doesn't he remove from Roy the responsibilty for team selection and tactics? At last that might bring some consistency to the whole operation.

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stevethenorm Watton, Norfolk 07 Nov 20 2.03pm
Starts today
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stevethenorm

Watton, Norfolk 07 Nov 20 2.03pm

Starts today

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PatrickA London 07 Nov 20 2.06pm
Eze has been preferred to Schlupp today. I’m glad he’s getting a chance, but hope he’s not expected to do the same job as Schlupp. Let him play with some freedom.
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PatrickA

London 07 Nov 20 2.06pm

Eze has been preferred to Schlupp today.
I’m glad he’s getting a chance, but hope he’s not expected to do the same job as Schlupp.
Let him play with some freedom.

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Brinscall Eagle Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 07 Nov 20 2.12pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Eze has been preferred to Schlupp today. I’m glad he’s getting a chance, but hope he’s not expected to do the same job as Schlupp. Let him play with some freedom. That is an odd thing to say? Why is Schlupp expected to do more than Eze? This perhaps indicates why Schlupp has been playing as he does more than Eze might be capable of doing. Anyway we will all see today and let us hope he lives up to our expect. COYP
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Brinscall Eagle

Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 07 Nov 20 2.12pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Eze has been preferred to Schlupp today.
I’m glad he’s getting a chance, but hope he’s not expected to do the same job as Schlupp.
Let him play with some freedom.

That is an odd thing to say? Why is Schlupp expected to do more than Eze? This perhaps indicates why Schlupp has been playing as he does more than Eze might be capable of doing.
Anyway we will all see today and let us hope he lives up to our expect. COYP

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