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Putitout Oxford 19 Jul 20 4.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
Palace are a mediocre mid table Premier club and that is the reality of the zenith of what can be achieved with the current finances. Agree with you, I can go back, to the early fifties, bit fuzzy at times as a kid . That’s how it goes. In all that time we have never had real dough to throw around, quiet well off but never able to get near even the London, big boys, the fact we are nearer to them now than ever
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 19 Jul 20 7.45pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
For the statisticians out there. Not even close. I also found this link. So we do already have the record of longest goalless streak. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (19 Jul 2020 8.55pm)
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i8clowntown sunny essex 19 Jul 20 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
Palace are a mediocre mid table Premier club and that is the reality of the zenith of what can be achieved with the current finances.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Jul 20 8.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
Agree with you, I can go back, to the early fifties, bit fuzzy at times as a kid . That’s how it goes. In all that time we have never had real dough to throw around, quiet well off but never able to get near even the London, big boys, the fact we are nearer to them now than ever Yehmun!
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Crystal_Clear Belfast 19 Jul 20 8.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
Palace are a mediocre mid table Premier club and that is the reality of the zenith of what can be achieved with the current finances. I don't disagree with the realistic expectations. However, I think people (including myself) is that unless there is some decent investment during summer then being a mediocre mid-table team next season is a pipe dream.
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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 19 Jul 20 8.50pm | |
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If you have been a supporter for 5 months or 50 years, is irrelevant. You don't go against your DNA, just to stay in the league. The majority of fans are not asking or expecting free flowing football, majority of fans are not expecting top 7 finishes. The majority of upset fans are asking to see youth come through - it's not happening. Players that fit and work the system with a manager that has a plan b - it's not happening. The club adhering to a budget - it's not happening. If palace finished 15th every season, with one youth player breaking into the team each year. With one player moving on to bigger things being replaced by a younger player with potential.. with a scouting network providing us with reasonable signings that compliment the squad, that ultimately get their money back - that's the goal, surely? No Wickham's, no Benteke, no Sako's - knowing when to sell the likes of Zaha and PVA, with younger lads breaking through.. that's what we want to see. A club comfortable in the league, the squad being used and playing with passion, for the badge... it's academy working well, the scouts doing well, the manager with a clear aim.... that should be goal. Like others have said... a billion has past through our club, if went down next season, what would ti have acheived, our 9 years in the prem? Everton have been a may stay, in the prem - producing some talent - Rooney, Dunne, Jeffers etc - yes, they spent big to break into Europe - that's the difference, if they didn't, would they have still been around the same mid table positions, I believe so. Our goal, each season should be to get to 40 points in record time, no less and to enjoy the cup runs. It's that simple. You don't need to break the bank to do that, but you do need a good infrastructure in place.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 19 Jul 20 9.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
If you have been a supporter for 5 months or 50 years, is irrelevant. You don't go against your DNA, just to stay in the league. The majority of fans are not asking or expecting free flowing football, majority of fans are not expecting top 7 finishes. The majority of upset fans are asking to see youth come through - it's not happening. Players that fit and work the system with a manager that has a plan b - it's not happening. The club adhering to a budget - it's not happening. If palace finished 15th every season, with one youth player breaking into the team each year. With one player moving on to bigger things being replaced by a younger player with potential.. with a scouting network providing us with reasonable signings that compliment the squad, that ultimately get their money back - that's the goal, surely? No Wickham's, no Benteke, no Sako's - knowing when to sell the likes of Zaha and PVA, with younger lads breaking through.. that's what we want to see. A club comfortable in the league, the squad being used and playing with passion, for the badge... it's academy working well, the scouts doing well, the manager with a clear aim.... that should be goal. Like others have said... a billion has past through our club, if went down next season, what would ti have acheived, our 9 years in the prem? Everton have been a may stay, in the prem - producing some talent - Rooney, Dunne, Jeffers etc - yes, they spent big to break into Europe - that's the difference, if they didn't, would they have still been around the same mid table positions, I believe so. Our goal, each season should be to get to 40 points in record time, no less and to enjoy the cup runs. It's that simple. You don't need to break the bank to do that, but you do need a good infrastructure in place. Regards to youth coming through, and Everton producing talent, we have only this month achieved Category 1 academy status. We will now compete with other Premier league clubs. Maybe, just maybe, previously the better prospects would have rather joined a Cat 1 academy, and now we might be able to attract better prospects. Now we might unearth another Zaha or Wan Bisaka.
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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 19 Jul 20 9.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
Regards to youth coming through, and Everton producing talent, we have only this month achieved Category 1 academy status. We will now compete with other Premier league clubs. Maybe, just maybe, previously the better prospects would have rather joined a Cat 1 academy, and now we might be able to attract better prospects. Now we might unearth another Zaha or Wan Bisaka. Which we did without category 1 status???
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Crystal_Clear Belfast 20 Jul 20 1.11pm | |
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Whilst I admire the club putting money into academy for Cat 1 status, is it really going to work ? If a big club come calling then having Cat 1 status may not matter at all, they will choose the big club. Look at Jaden Raymond, had it been the likes of Chelsea or Liverpool after him instead of Leeds and the Portugese side, would he have decided on Palace ?
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iheartcpfc SE25 20 Jul 20 4.08pm | |
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Originally posted by SwordFish
Sheff UTD are a one season wonder and will be in a relegation battle next year mark my words this was all I needed to read to know I should have closed the tab
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est1905 20 Jul 20 4.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
Whilst I admire the club putting money into academy for Cat 1 status, is it really going to work ? If a big club come calling then having Cat 1 status may not matter at all, they will choose the big club. Look at Jaden Raymond, had it been the likes of Chelsea or Liverpool after him instead of Leeds and the Portugese side, would he have decided on Palace ? I disagree, I think at Chelsea or Arsenal for example these kids now realise (or at least their parents do) that they'll be stock piled and will have to battle through dozens of fellow talents for the starting position and or have to be loaned out all over Europe for years. They'll look at Wilf, AWB, Victor Moses, Clinton Morrison, Hayden Mullins, even the potential of Jon Bostock and think do you know what? If my boy is good enough and has the right attitude he'll get his chance.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 20 Jul 20 10.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Which we did without category 1 status??? I know! Amazing! Two in eight years! Exemplary work.
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