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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 12.06pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The pressure is on from Tv and the Champions league. Clubs also need the money to keep coming in to go out to pay players. I understand that but if no consensus is found about how to complete the league soon, and that looks unlikely to me, then something else needs to be done. Cancelling it completely won't solve the problem if, as looks likely, we cannot start 2020/21 in August. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 10 May 20 12.06pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The pressure is on from Tv and the Champions league. Clubs also need the money to keep coming in to go out to pay players.

I understand that but if no consensus is found about how to complete the league soon, and that looks unlikely to me, then something else needs to be done.

Cancelling it completely won't solve the problem if, as looks likely, we cannot start 2020/21 in August.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Badger11 Beckenham 10 May 20 1.00pm
Originally posted by Spiderman What a surprise, surely just treat them as injuries. Bit convenient given his recent comments! [Link] No surprise it seems everyday there is a story about folk in Brighton not obeying the rules. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 10 May 20 1.00pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

What a surprise, surely just treat them as injuries. Bit convenient given his recent comments!

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No surprise it seems everyday there is a story about folk in Brighton not obeying the rules.

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Badger11 Beckenham 10 May 20 1.02pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle one problem mooted about neutral venues like st georges park is that there has to be VAR installed at the grounds games are being played at, or there will be issues is a side is relegated by a goal that would have been wiped off. whatever the outcome, the games have to be played, 3 teams have to be relegated, 3 come up, liverpool crowned champions & european places confirmed or there is just going to be ongoing legal issues for years. if we had only played 10 games cancelling the season could be a good shout, but not with 75% played. I don't think that is a big issue it should be a relatively simple process and I agree it is a must as we started the season with it. One more point
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Beckenham 10 May 20 1.02pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

one problem mooted about neutral venues like st georges park is that there has to be VAR installed at the grounds games are being played at, or there will be issues is a side is relegated by a goal that would have been wiped off.

whatever the outcome, the games have to be played, 3 teams have to be relegated, 3 come up, liverpool crowned champions & european places confirmed or there is just going to be ongoing legal issues for years.

if we had only played 10 games cancelling the season could be a good shout, but not with 75% played.

I don't think that is a big issue it should be a relatively simple process and I agree it is a must as we started the season with it.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 10 May 20 1.26pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I don't think that is a big issue it should be a relatively simple process and I agree it is a must as we started the season with it. i thin its a big issue because realistically it has to be played at one of 20 grounds, 22 with Wembley or millennium stadium. Play games in a proper stadium and you WILL have people turn up en-mass outside the ground however many times you tell people not to. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by Badger11

I don't think that is a big issue it should be a relatively simple process and I agree it is a must as we started the season with it.

i thin its a big issue because realistically it has to be played at one of 20 grounds, 22 with Wembley or millennium stadium.

Play games in a proper stadium and you WILL have people turn up en-mass outside the ground however many times you tell people not to.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Eaglecoops CR3 10 May 20 2.07pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle i thin its a big issue because realistically it has to be played at one of 20 grounds, 22 with Wembley or millennium stadium. Play games in a proper stadium and you WILL have people turn up en-mass outside the ground however many times you tell people not to. Not sure about VAR, I reckon the biggest problem will be trying to persuade a player to go and fetch the ball when its gone under a car or in someones garden. That will make good television. Just scrap the league for this year, football really isn't that important and if some money disappears out of the game, good. It's got ridiculous anyway and needs an adjustment.
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CR3 10 May 20 2.07pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i thin its a big issue because realistically it has to be played at one of 20 grounds, 22 with Wembley or millennium stadium.

Play games in a proper stadium and you WILL have people turn up en-mass outside the ground however many times you tell people not to.

Not sure about VAR, I reckon the biggest problem will be trying to persuade a player to go and fetch the ball when its gone under a car or in someones garden. That will make good television.

Just scrap the league for this year, football really isn't that important and if some money disappears out of the game, good. It's got ridiculous anyway and needs an adjustment.

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Midlands Eagle 10 May 20 2.17pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Just scrap the league for this year, football really isn't that important and if some money disappears out of the game, good. It's got ridiculous anyway and needs an adjustment. But it won't be "some money disappearing out of the game" it will be huge sums. For starters Sky will only want to pay out 2/3 of their annual fee to each Premiership club and how many clubs will survive with £25m lopped off their cash flow
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Just scrap the league for this year, football really isn't that important and if some money disappears out of the game, good. It's got ridiculous anyway and needs an adjustment.

But it won't be "some money disappearing out of the game" it will be huge sums. For starters Sky will only want to pay out 2/3 of their annual fee to each Premiership club and how many clubs will survive with £25m lopped off their cash flow

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Badger11 Beckenham 10 May 20 2.17pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Not sure about VAR, I reckon the biggest problem will be trying to persuade a player to go and fetch the ball when its gone under a car or in someones garden. That will make good television. Just scrap the league for this year, football really isn't that important and if some money disappears out of the game, good. It's got ridiculous anyway and needs an adjustment. "excuse me mister can we have our ball back" One more point
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Beckenham 10 May 20 2.17pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Not sure about VAR, I reckon the biggest problem will be trying to persuade a player to go and fetch the ball when its gone under a car or in someones garden. That will make good television.

Just scrap the league for this year, football really isn't that important and if some money disappears out of the game, good. It's got ridiculous anyway and needs an adjustment.

"excuse me mister can we have our ball back"

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Badger11 Beckenham 10 May 20 2.29pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle i thin its a big issue because realistically it has to be played at one of 20 grounds, 22 with Wembley or millennium stadium. Play games in a proper stadium and you WILL have people turn up en-mass outside the ground however many times you tell people not to. Maybe, but it's just a bunch of TV camera's the control room with the officials is already in place I assume the cameras are portable. I take your point about the number of neutral grounds which is why I think they should be reduced to under 10. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 10 May 20 2.29pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i thin its a big issue because realistically it has to be played at one of 20 grounds, 22 with Wembley or millennium stadium.

Play games in a proper stadium and you WILL have people turn up en-mass outside the ground however many times you tell people not to.

Maybe, but it's just a bunch of TV camera's the control room with the officials is already in place I assume the cameras are portable. I take your point about the number of neutral grounds which is why I think they should be reduced to under 10.

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Davepalace707 Northumberland 10 May 20 3.07pm
Whatever is decided, they need to take notice of the new slogan stay alert >> control the virus >> relegate Brighton
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Northumberland 10 May 20 3.07pm

Whatever is decided, they need to take notice of the new slogan

stay alert >> control the virus >> relegate Brighton

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 10 May 20 6.30pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I watched Steve Parish on the Marr programme today and thought he came over well, being measured and realistic. Effectively he said that the neutral ground proposal was at the behest of the Police and was the least worse option. Whether it gets accepted though is another matter. I think the likes of Brighton and Watford are trying to get the season cancelled so they don't face any chance of relegation but with so many competing points of view it's going to be almost impossible to achieve a consensus. Why don't they simply suspend the leagues until it is considered safe to resume as normal, with crowds, whenever that may be, if even a year from now. Then complete the fixtures and start the new season, modified if necessary to fit the then prevailing circumstances? That's not to suggest that there cannot be any football. Alternative competitions could take place, at neutral grounds. Mini regional leagues and cups could run. It wouldn't be the same as the Premier league but could have special rules to ensure safety and some could be free to all on TV. It would be better than no football, or a long drawn out dispute. It's what happen during WW2 and this is not a totally dissimilar circumstance. Yeah, just start again when we can and finish this season, then go straight in to another, and the money issue can be sorted later, players can wait for their wages, give them half now, half later, it2s not that hard surely, Failing that., if we use the 6 bottom teams grounds for there home games behind closed doors, then we just need 4 more grounds!
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Any european country i fancy! 10 May 20 6.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I watched Steve Parish on the Marr programme today and thought he came over well, being measured and realistic. Effectively he said that the neutral ground proposal was at the behest of the Police and was the least worse option. Whether it gets accepted though is another matter.

I think the likes of Brighton and Watford are trying to get the season cancelled so they don't face any chance of relegation but with so many competing points of view it's going to be almost impossible to achieve a consensus.

Why don't they simply suspend the leagues until it is considered safe to resume as normal, with crowds, whenever that may be, if even a year from now. Then complete the fixtures and start the new season, modified if necessary to fit the then prevailing circumstances?

That's not to suggest that there cannot be any football. Alternative competitions could take place, at neutral grounds. Mini regional leagues and cups could run. It wouldn't be the same as the Premier league but could have special rules to ensure safety and some could be free to all on TV. It would be better than no football, or a long drawn out dispute.

It's what happen during WW2 and this is not a totally dissimilar circumstance.

Yeah, just start again when we can and finish this season, then go straight in to another, and the money issue can be sorted later, players can wait for their wages, give them half now, half later, it2s not that hard surely, Failing that., if we use the 6 bottom teams grounds for there home games behind closed doors, then we just need 4 more grounds!

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Pierre Purley 10 May 20 8.03pm
I have always liked Steve Parish I think we are very fortunate to have him at CPFC. It appears that the Premier league have just discovered his excellent media skills as well by getting him to speak about project restart. He talks a lot of sense as he sees and includes the whole picture, carefully reiterating that football despite its money is not above life and death nor is it above deflecting any vital resources that could be used elsewhere. Lastly stating that it may not restart at all but if that were the case clubs would lose financially.
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Purley 10 May 20 8.03pm

I have always liked Steve Parish I think we are very fortunate to have him at CPFC.
It appears that the Premier league have just discovered his excellent media skills as well by getting him to speak about project restart. He talks a lot of sense as he sees and includes the whole picture, carefully reiterating that football despite its money is not above life and death nor is it above deflecting any vital resources that could be used elsewhere. Lastly stating that it may not restart at all but if that were the case clubs would lose financially.

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Booted Eagle Bristol 10 May 20 8.46pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The pressure is on from Tv and the Champions league. Clubs also need the money to keep coming in to go out to pay players. Spot on. Looking at what is being thrown about seems to me trying to just placate the TV companies and sort out the Champs League places, no relegation, neutral venues and fans. In this scenario only the fight for the Champs League spots will be memorable. Pool will win the league, the likes of Chelski, Spuds and ManUre will fight it out, the rest of the teams makeweights. Probably next season will be just the top 6 in a mini league. Hope SP hasn't broken social distancing rules by getting his barnet coiffured. Edited by Booted Eagle (10 May 2020 8.49pm) “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 10 May 20 8.46pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The pressure is on from Tv and the Champions league. Clubs also need the money to keep coming in to go out to pay players.

Spot on. Looking at what is being thrown about seems to me trying to just placate the TV companies and sort out the Champs League places, no relegation, neutral venues and fans. In this scenario only the fight for the Champs League spots will be memorable. Pool will win the league, the likes of Chelski, Spuds and ManUre will fight it out, the rest of the teams makeweights. Probably next season will be just the top 6 in a mini league.

Hope SP hasn't broken social distancing rules by getting his barnet coiffured.

Edited by Booted Eagle (10 May 2020 8.49pm)

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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