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Rachid Rachid Rachid 21 Oct 20 9.29pm
Originally posted by est1905 Hodgson by a mile. Pardew was taking us down. Hodgson has kept us up against all odds (0 points, 0 goals in first 8 games) when he rescued us from Frank the crank. You want to stay at the top table and slowly but surely improve infrastructure throughout? The alternative is back to the Championship where it might be more entertaining and we will win more often but progress will be frozen and financially we'll be living hand to mouth. Everyone is entitle to their opinion but I know what I prefer. Agree with this 100%
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Originally posted by est1905

Hodgson by a mile. Pardew was taking us down. Hodgson has kept us up against all odds (0 points, 0 goals in first 8 games) when he rescued us from Frank the crank.
You want to stay at the top table and slowly but surely improve infrastructure throughout?
The alternative is back to the Championship where it might be more entertaining and we will win more often but progress will be frozen and financially we'll be living hand to mouth.
Everyone is entitle to their opinion but I know what I prefer.

Agree with this 100%

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redshift Toronto 21 Oct 20 9.47pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Chalk and cheese. Totally different people, and football managers. Pardew is too far down one road, while Roy is too far down the other. You need some of Pardew like having some guts, having a go at teams, and taking the shackles off..... But you want a bit of Roy in there, solid shape when out of possession and well drilled. You need to strike a balance. If we could strike that balance we could be much higher up the league table, and approaching an FA cup semi final. You know what both are s*** at though? Coming up with a plan b when plan a isn’t working out, during a game. I agree... but I don't really want to talk or go back to the Pardew years. It's Roy now. My worry is that Roy has one way of playing and everyone knows it so every team we face knows how we play and will prepare for it. They know there is no plan B and what they see at kick off is what they will see at 90 minutes. That to me is a big handicap. This league has become more dynamic over the years. Look at Villa this year who changed in an eye blink into something you don't want to face. And yet we continue to chug along as always. Also, we are an aging squad. You can cover a myriad of sins with young legs and lungs but if you have a group that looks like they would have trouble perambulating across the Sainsbury parking lot (I know, I'm exagerating) then you can't use youthful exuberance to cover errors. I'm not confident in the future. Success will lie to you but failure always tells you the truth.
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Toronto 21 Oct 20 9.47pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Chalk and cheese.

Totally different people, and football managers.

Pardew is too far down one road, while Roy is too far down the other.

You need some of Pardew like having some guts, having a go at teams, and taking the shackles off.....

But you want a bit of Roy in there, solid shape when out of possession and well drilled.

You need to strike a balance. If we could strike that balance we could be much higher up the league table, and approaching an FA cup semi final.

You know what both are s*** at though? Coming up with a plan b when plan a isn’t working out, during a game.

I agree... but I don't really want to talk or go back to the Pardew years. It's Roy now. My worry is that Roy has one way of playing and everyone knows it so every team we face knows how we play and will prepare for it. They know there is no plan B and what they see at kick off is what they will see at 90 minutes. That to me is a big handicap. This league has become more dynamic over the years.
Look at Villa this year who changed in an eye blink into something you don't want to face. And yet we continue to chug along as always.
Also, we are an aging squad. You can cover a myriad of sins with young legs and lungs but if you have a group that looks like they would have trouble perambulating across the Sainsbury parking lot (I know, I'm exagerating) then you can't use youthful exuberance to cover errors. I'm not confident in the future.

Success will lie to you but failure always tells you the truth.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 21 Oct 20 9.56pm
Originally posted by redshift I agree... but I don't really want to talk or go back to the Pardew years. It's Roy now. My worry is that Roy has one way of playing and everyone knows it so every team we face knows how we play and will prepare for it. They know there is no plan B and what they see at kick off is what they will see at 90 minutes. That to me is a big handicap. This league has become more dynamic over the years. Look at Villa this year who changed in an eye blink into something you don't want to face. And yet we continue to chug along as always. Also, we are an aging squad. You can cover a myriad of sins with young legs and lungs but if you have a group that looks like they would have trouble perambulating across the Sainsbury parking lot (I know, I'm exagerating) then you can't use youthful exuberance to cover errors. I'm not confident in the future. Not checked out whether it’s true but someone told me Brighton have the youngest squad in the Premier League.
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21 Oct 20 9.56pm

Originally posted by redshift

Not checked out whether it’s true but someone told me Brighton have the youngest squad in the Premier League.

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Gribbo Bromley 21 Oct 20 10.30pm
Like it or not, Potter is doing a good job - should have beaten Chelsea (hit the woodwork 5 times), should have beaten us (no shots on target from open play). Roy on the other hand continues to manage us like he did Inter Milan in the last century - hang out for the clean sheet and hope to nick a goal, home or away, Man C or Brighton - with no Plan B. Time's up for the old fella I am afraid. We need to be on the front foot changing hi out though. If he goes in a fit if pique we will be left with Dougie in charge. I am not sure that moves us any further forward.
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Bromley 21 Oct 20 10.30pm

Like it or not, Potter is doing a good job - should have beaten Chelsea (hit the woodwork 5 times), should have beaten us (no shots on target from open play). Roy on the other hand continues to manage us like he did Inter Milan in the last century - hang out for the clean sheet and hope to nick a goal, home or away, Man C or Brighton - with no Plan B.

Time's up for the old fella I am afraid.

We need to be on the front foot changing hi out though. If he goes in a fit if pique we will be left with Dougie in charge. I am not sure that moves us any further forward.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 22 Oct 20 11.35am
It is an insult to compare Roy to Pardew. Pardew galvanised us for a while, when bold words mattered more than the content of his character. And I completely agree he unwittingly benefited from the lingering discipline that Pulis had instilled in us. Once that was gone, Pardew was a busted flush. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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It is an insult to compare Roy to Pardew.

Pardew galvanised us for a while, when bold words mattered more than the content of his character.

And I completely agree he unwittingly benefited from the lingering discipline that Pulis had instilled in us. Once that was gone, Pardew was a busted flush.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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jeeagles 22 Oct 20 12.29pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig It is an insult to compare Roy to Pardew. Pardew galvanised us for a while, when bold words mattered more than the content of his character. And I completely agree he unwittingly benefited from the lingering discipline that Pulis had instilled in us. Once that was gone, Pardew was a busted flush. It seems we may have gone full circle, regaining the ability to defend but completely losing and ability to attack.
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22 Oct 20 12.29pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

It is an insult to compare Roy to Pardew.

Pardew galvanised us for a while, when bold words mattered more than the content of his character.

And I completely agree he unwittingly benefited from the lingering discipline that Pulis had instilled in us. Once that was gone, Pardew was a busted flush.

It seems we may have gone full circle, regaining the ability to defend but completely losing and ability to attack.

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The Dolphin 22 Oct 20 12.48pm
Whilst I think it is time for Roy to go there is just no comparison between the two. Roy Hodgson is a Gentleman, he has been and still sort of is a top class manager who demands and receives respect. There are few histrionics and he says it how it is (most of the time). He behaves well even when the going gets tough. On the other hand Alan Pardew is not any of the above at all. The lowlight for me was him doing a jig when we went 1-0 up in the Cup Final instead of organising the troops and sorting things out - we all know what happened next! Pardew was and probably still is a buffoon!
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22 Oct 20 12.48pm

Whilst I think it is time for Roy to go there is just no comparison between the two.
Roy Hodgson is a Gentleman, he has been and still sort of is a top class manager who demands and receives respect.
There are few histrionics and he says it how it is (most of the time).
He behaves well even when the going gets tough.
On the other hand Alan Pardew is not any of the above at all.
The lowlight for me was him doing a jig when we went 1-0 up in the Cup Final instead of organising the troops and sorting things out - we all know what happened next!
Pardew was and probably still is a buffoon!

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Painter Croydon 22 Oct 20 1.24pm
Originally posted by Gribbo Like it or not, Potter is doing a good job - should have beaten Chelsea (hit the woodwork 5 times), should have beaten us (no shots on target from open play). Roy on the other hand continues to manage us like he did Inter Milan in the last century - hang out for the clean sheet and hope to nick a goal, home or away, Man C or Brighton - with no Plan B. Time's up for the old fella I am afraid. We need to be on the front foot changing hi out though. If he goes in a fit if pique we will be left with Dougie in charge. I am not sure that moves us any further forward. Potter doing a good job? He has won 4 of the last 25 Premier games. This plan B is a misnomer, we play 442 and 433 in different matches, which one is plan B.
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Croydon 22 Oct 20 1.24pm

Originally posted by Gribbo

Time's up for the old fella I am afraid.

We need to be on the front foot changing hi out though. If he goes in a fit if pique we will be left with Dougie in charge. I am not sure that moves us any further forward.

Potter doing a good job? He has won 4 of the last 25 Premier games.

This plan B is a misnomer, we play 442 and 433 in different matches, which one is plan B.

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jeeagles 22 Oct 20 4.43pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin Whilst I think it is time for Roy to go there is just no comparison between the two. Roy Hodgson is a Gentleman, he has been and still sort of is a top class manager who demands and receives respect. There are few histrionics and he says it how it is (most of the time). He behaves well even when the going gets tough. On the other hand Alan Pardew is not any of the above at all. The lowlight for me was him doing a jig when we went 1-0 up in the Cup Final instead of organising the troops and sorting things out - we all know what happened next! Pardew was and probably still is a buffoon! Can't blame a man for getting excited at watching his team get so close to winning the cup. Most of the criticism game from Man U's twitter army spitting blood that we'd embarrassed them, fueled on by people who just echo the loudest opinion. You're right that he should have been screeming at the team to get back, but we'd just ripped the roof off Wembley stadium. Anyone turning up to the Grimsby or Derby cup games should have got a refund.
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22 Oct 20 4.43pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Can't blame a man for getting excited at watching his team get so close to winning the cup.

Most of the criticism game from Man U's twitter army spitting blood that we'd embarrassed them, fueled on by people who just echo the loudest opinion.

You're right that he should have been screeming at the team to get back, but we'd just ripped the roof off Wembley stadium.

Anyone turning up to the Grimsby or Derby cup games should have got a refund.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 23 Oct 20 11.00pm
Originally posted by jeeagles Can't blame a man for getting excited at watching his team get so close to winning the cup. Most of the criticism game from Man U's twitter army spitting blood that we'd embarrassed them, fueled on by people who just echo the loudest opinion. You're right that he should have been screeming at the team to get back, but we'd just ripped the roof off Wembley stadium. Anyone turning up to the Grimsby or Derby cup games should have got a refund. Wern't they the games where Max Meyer was put centre mid ?
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Rachid Rachid Rachid

23 Oct 20 11.00pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Can't blame a man for getting excited at watching his team get so close to winning the cup.

Most of the criticism game from Man U's twitter army spitting blood that we'd embarrassed them, fueled on by people who just echo the loudest opinion.

You're right that he should have been screeming at the team to get back, but we'd just ripped the roof off Wembley stadium.

Anyone turning up to the Grimsby or Derby cup games should have got a refund.

Wern't they the games where Max Meyer was put centre mid ?

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jeeagles 24 Oct 20 9.26am
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid Wern't they the games where Max Meyer was put centre mid ? They were the ones where he played one striker against a team in the conference with 10 men.
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jeeagles

24 Oct 20 9.26am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Wern't they the games where Max Meyer was put centre mid ?

They were the ones where he played one striker against a team in the conference with 10 men.

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silvertop Portishead 25 Oct 20 2.57pm
Originally posted by Painter Potter doing a good job? He has won 4 of the last 25 Premier games. This plan B is a misnomer, we play 442 and 433 in different matches, which one is plan B. Yup and with different players. The only thing that is truly boring is the stream of uninformed criticism
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Portishead 25 Oct 20 2.57pm

Originally posted by Painter

Potter doing a good job? He has won 4 of the last 25 Premier games.

This plan B is a misnomer, we play 442 and 433 in different matches, which one is plan B.

Yup and with different players. The only thing that is truly boring is the stream of uninformed criticism

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