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Man blacks up as Diane Abbott at the darts.Racist?
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 Direwolf  Lincoln 18 Dec 17 6.34pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
In the case of the chap at darts, I really don't think he was mocking ethnicity.As far as I can see he was mocking the politician who happens to be black. If a black chap had "White-faced" wore a Theresa May wig and mocked her in a similar fashion would there have been a similar reaction ? I would have found this quite amusing and certainly not concluded that he was a racist on account of what he had done. Edited by Willo (18 Dec 2017 5.52pm) How can one know if he was mocking ethnicity or not? As said elsewhere in this thread the real question is why a white bloke would choose to dress up as a black woman as the single most funniest thing that he could think of for a darts match.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 17 6.40pm |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
How can one know if he was mocking ethnicity or not? As said elsewhere in this thread the real question is why a white bloke would choose to dress up as a black woman as the single most funniest thing that he could think of for a darts match. To my mind he was mocking Diane Abbott for her difficulty with numbers and accordingly dressed up as her so that everyone knew what he was on about.It really is a stretch of the imagination to believe he was mocking ethnicity. Clearly the PC Brigade have deemed that "Black-face" by a white person is totally unacceptable and offensive irrespective of the actualite and context.This is the view of the PC Brigade and we all have our own views even if we don't all have agendas.Maybe the PC Brigade will be as cacophanous if a black person "White faces". I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. Edited by Willo (18 Dec 2017 6.46pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 18 Dec 17 6.40pm |
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It's not 'racist'. End of story. If someone is notorious in some way, then they are a fair target for ridicule, satire or impersonation. Fancy dress is in that tradition so don't tell me you can't dress up as someone because they have a different colour skin. That is f***ing ridiculous. And don't start on about the history of Blackface. I don't care. Get over it. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2017 6.42pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Dec 17 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
To my mind he was mocking Diane Abbott for her difficulty with numbers and accordingly dressed up as her so that everyone knew what he was on about.It really is a stretch of the imagination to believe he was mocking ethnicity. I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I'll get Samuel l Jackson to dress up as Jeremy Hunt as a joke about him lying to parliament.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Dec 17 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's not 'racist'. End of story. If someone is notorious in some way, then they are a fair target for ridicule, satire or impersonation. Fancy dress is in that tradition so don't tell me you can't dress up as someone because they have a different colour skin. That is f***ing ridiculous. And don't start on about the history of Blackface. I don't care. Get over it. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2017 6.42pm) What if someone went to the darts dressed as a jew going to the gas ovens. It happened ages ago. Don't start on the history of ethnic cleansing...
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 17 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's not 'racist'. End of story. If someone is notorious in some way, then they are a fair target for ridicule, satire or impersonation. Fancy dress is in that tradition so don't tell me you can't dress up as someone because they have a different colour skin. That is f***ing ridiculous. And don't start on about the history of Blackface. I don't care. Get over it. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2017 6.42pm) I totally understand where you are coming from. And if a black person "White faces" and mocks a white politician who has been the subject of ridicule, I for one will deem that he is mocking the politician and NOT his colour. Shame on me for NOT shouting "Racist" and being offended.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 18 Dec 17 6.52pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What if someone went to the darts dressed as a jew going to the gas ovens. It happened ages ago. Don't start on the history of ethnic cleansing... That's different. A generic Jewish person is not an individual. Nor is he responsible for being sent to a gas chamber. I've seen fancy dress that is in very bad taste featuring an individual, which I think is OK as long as you accept very bad taste and I've also seen examples where an ethnicity is part of the joke which I think is not acceptable in a multicultural society. Diane Abbot however is perfect material. She is a walking joke. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Dec 2017 6.52pm)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 17 6.53pm |
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I have made my views patently clear, there is no need for me to engage in any re-gurgitation and continue my debate with the PC Brigade so that's it from me on this thread.
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regal_eagle  somewhere 18 Dec 17 7.14pm |
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So people against tyranny are labelled as 'Anti-Fascist', and those who understand why people of colour might be offended by people 'Blacking Up' are labelled the PC Brigade? Is that what Society has come to...People calling each other belittling names because they take a stand against prejudice?
To me you're just a bunch of small-minded bigots, patting each other on the back and encouraging each other to be c*nts.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Dec 17 7.36pm |
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Originally posted by regal_eagle
So people against tyranny are labelled as 'Anti-Fascist', and those who understand why people of colour might be offended by people 'Blacking Up' are labelled the PC Brigade? Is that what Society has come to...People calling each other belittling names because they take a stand against prejudice?
To me you're just a bunch of small-minded bigots, patting each other on the back and encouraging each other to be c*nts. Good points well made.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Dec 17 7.49pm |
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Originally posted by regal_eagle
So people against tyranny are labelled as 'Anti-Fascist', and those who understand why people of colour might be offended by people 'Blacking Up' are labelled the PC Brigade? Is that what Society has come to...People calling each other belittling names because they take a stand against prejudice?
To me you're just a bunch of small-minded bigots, patting each other on the back and encouraging each other to be c*nts. So you complain about people calling each other 'belittling names' in a badly constructed sentence and then hypocritically call us 'small minded bigots'. You sir are a hypocrite.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 17 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by regal_eagle
So people against tyranny are labelled as 'Anti-Fascist', and those who understand why people of colour might be offended by people 'Blacking Up' are labelled the PC Brigade? Is that what Society has come to...People calling each other belittling names because they take a stand against prejudice?
To me you're just a bunch of small-minded bigots, patting each other on the back and encouraging each other to be c*nts. My My ! I know I posted that my previous post was going to be the last on this thread but I just had to respond highlighting certain accusations : Just Re-arrange words "Black, the kettle, calling pot" This really is my last post on this thread.Going out now.
Edited by Willo (18 Dec 2017 7.50pm)
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