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| Hoof Hearted 20 Dec 15 10.21am | |
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Quote Mr_Gristle at 19 Dec 2015 8.36pm
Quote nickgusset at 19 Dec 2015 12.13pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 19 Dec 2015 11.44am
This "Buy To Let Monster" you speak of........ It is fed mainly by the shortage of housing stock creating a huge demand and this has driven up house prices and shows no sign of stopping. All the while we are members of the EU, we will always be short of housing stock and therefore house prices will continue to rise because the demand is there. Sadly first time buyers will largely be unable to get on the ladder as prices spiral upwards and renting will be the norm. Those of you thinking of voting to stay in the EU might want to reconsider this decision if you want this situation to change. Whilst we have an open door policy, rich landlords will get even richer and the younger generation will be priced out of the market.
Hoof and I may appear to be on opposite sides of the spectrum, but he's not wrong to say that something which increases the net population increases the demand for housing. He's only wrong if he thinks EU freedom of movement is the only or primary reason. The "Open Door" policy is part and parcel of EU membership and I for one won't vote against it. Still, all those people legally coming to the UK to work have to live somewhere. I doubt they're earning enough to buy anywhere outright in the South East. You'd think governments would be able to measure the population increase, plan sufficient house building and invest in non high speed rail infrastructure accordingly........ Edited by Mr_Gristle (19 Dec 2015 8.39pm)
It's like running a nightclub with no door staff or not issuing them with counting devices - pretty soon the club gets over crowded and very uncomfortable for everyone. Have you not realised we are a small island (already building on flood plain) compared to Germany, France and Spain.... we cannot be expected to allow unfettered immigration - the geography must tell you that? Our already heavily strained infrastructure is creaking. Building houses doesn't solve any problems... hospitals, schools, GP surgeries, New Roads, Car Parks, Etc also need building to service these homes. Voting to stay in an EU referendum is not an option.
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 04 Feb 16 6.54pm |
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Watch from 14 mins in. Good analysis of how austerity isn't working.
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 johnfirewall 05 Feb 16 3.50pm |
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Probably doesn't work but then neither does paying people to have more kids, or giving fat people cars. Not that I don't feel for people who are having stuff taken away, and not that it isn't as a result of the government's actions but maybe if people weren't sympathetic by default towards anyone who is worse off then them and scathing of anyone with more money then those in need might get the attention. If we could all hate the lazy then we wouldn't need to have programmes about people on the dole with 17 kids and we could all plead for someone with a disability to be given enough money to cover their care. Edited by johnfirewall (05 Feb 2016 3.54pm)
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Watch from 14 mins in. Good analysis of how austerity isn't working. Using Russia today for your sources are we now? Very reliable I'm sure. No, I haven't looked at whatever crap it is.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Feb 16 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Using Russia today for your sources are we now? Very reliable I'm sure. No, I haven't looked at whatever crap it is. Then why comment? Was an interview with the author of this... Edited by nickgusset (05 Feb 2016 4.16pm)
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Then why comment? Was an interview with the author of this... Edited by nickgusset (05 Feb 2016 4.16pm) Why keep bringing up your old threads with the most tenuous of links? Russia Today, is not credible, no matter who they employ. even if you think they're bang on the money (which means they probably aren't but you agree with them). She's someone who joined occupy. File under retard and ignore.
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| matt_himself Matataland 05 Feb 16 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Why keep bringing up your old threads with the most tenuous of links? Russia Today, is not credible, no matter who they employ. even if you think they're bang on the money (which means they probably aren't but you agree with them). She's someone who joined occupy. File under retard and ignore.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Feb 16 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Why keep bringing up your old threads with the most tenuous of links? Russia Today, is not credible, no matter who they employ. even if you think they're bang on the money (which means they probably aren't but you agree with them). She's someone who joined occupy. File under retard and ignore. What is it about what she said that you disagree with? How is an interview about a book about austerity tenuous to a thread about austerity? Edited by nickgusset (05 Feb 2016 4.44pm)
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What is it about what she said that you disagree with? How is an interview about a book about austerity tenuous to a thread about austerity? Edited by nickgusset (05 Feb 2016 4.44pm) I already informed you that I haven't looked at it, and I won't be doing so. Finding anything on a site like Russia today to support your argument is called clutching at straws. This one isn't actually that tenuous but you would post a link to the dictionary definition of the word just to bump this thread yet again. It's very dull to keep seeing your propaganda threads reappear as soon as they've dropped off/gone quiet. I'm going to guesstimate that you have bumped over 100 times between this thread, look what you've done and Corbyn. And I've pointed this out to you before. I'd quite like the mods to lock them all as it's that predictable.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Feb 16 5.05pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I already informed you that I haven't looked at it, and I won't be doing so. Finding anything on a site like Russia today to support your argument is called clutching at straws. This one isn't actually that tenuous but you would post a link to the dictionary definition of the word just to bump this thread yet again. It's very dull to keep seeing your propaganda threads reappear as soon as they've dropped off/gone quiet. I'm going to guesstimate that you have bumped over 100 times between this thread, look what you've done and Corbyn. And I've pointed this out to you before. I'd quite like the mods to lock them all as it's that predictable. Rather than coming out with your non argument - 'I didn't read it', why don't you enlighten us as to why you think austerity is working. BTW, the 2 links above are from more 'esteemed' sources. Worth a read and fully backed up with evidence and data.
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 5.12pm |
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A billy blog is an esteemed source to you is it? And I use today's news, not last April's.
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| matt_himself Matataland 05 Feb 16 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I already informed you that I haven't looked at it, and I won't be doing so. Finding anything on a site like Russia today to support your argument is called clutching at straws. This one isn't actually that tenuous but you would post a link to the dictionary definition of the word just to bump this thread yet again. It's very dull to keep seeing your propaganda threads reappear as soon as they've dropped off/gone quiet. I'm going to guesstimate that you have bumped over 100 times between this thread, look what you've done and Corbyn. And I've pointed this out to you before. I'd quite like the mods to lock them all as it's that predictable.
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