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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Oct 15 9.49am
Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 3.58pm Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm Immigration up 20% since 2010. National debt almost doubled since 2010. Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed. Anything happened about tax avoidance yet? Housing and rent out of control. Childrens services cut by 20%. This list goes on and on..... Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health. And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance. We are being had, aren't we? Enlighten us....... publish the full list! [Link] Happy to oblige. [Link] If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic. I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!! Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true. I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you??? Edited by susmik (19 Oct 2015 3.02pm) David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies? Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!! Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists. I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.

We are being had, aren't we?

Enlighten us....... publish the full list!

[Link]

Happy to oblige.

[Link]

If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic.

I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!!

Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true.

I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you???

Edited by susmik (19 Oct 2015 3.02pm)

David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies?

Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!!

Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists.

I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government.

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 20 Oct 15 12.01pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Oct 2015 9.49am Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 3.58pm Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm Immigration up 20% since 2010. National debt almost doubled since 2010. Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed. Anything happened about tax avoidance yet? Housing and rent out of control. Childrens services cut by 20%. This list goes on and on..... Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health. And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance. We are being had, aren't we? Enlighten us....... publish the full list! [Link] Happy to oblige. [Link] If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic. I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!! Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true. I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you??? Edited by susmik (19 Oct 2015 3.02pm) David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies? Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!! Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists. I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government. Enough with your baffling scientific explanations Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am

Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm

Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm

Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.

We are being had, aren't we?

Enlighten us....... publish the full list!

[Link]

Happy to oblige.

[Link]

If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic.

I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!!

Edited by susmik (19 Oct 2015 3.02pm)

Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists.

Enough with your baffling scientific explanations

Lend me a Tenor

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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Oct 15 12.06pm
Quote Superfly at 20 Oct 2015 12.01pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 20 Oct 2015 9.49am Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 3.58pm Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm Immigration up 20% since 2010. National debt almost doubled since 2010. Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed. Anything happened about tax avoidance yet? Housing and rent out of control. Childrens services cut by 20%. This list goes on and on..... Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health. And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance. We are being had, aren't we? Enlighten us....... publish the full list! [Link] Happy to oblige. [Link] If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic. I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!! Well yes and know, he may be a deceptive little toe rag but that doesn't immediately follow that report was also untrue, or devoid of facts - just unreliable. Usually if you're going to discredit a statement, you also have to tackle the salient points. Just pointing out that someone is liar is itself a deflection, it doesn't follow that the reverse is immediately true. I am guessing you meant yes and NO.....? Surely if he is a known liar and untruths are his portfolio then it stands to reason most if not ALL of what he spouts is not the truth. As for tackling the salient points why should we believe ANYTHING he posts or sticks on twitter??? I think its best to just to ignore him and find better honest and accurate opinions online don't you??? Edited by susmik (19 Oct 2015 3.02pm) David Cameron deceived the people over his relationship with Andy Coulson and Rebecca Brookes, there for nothing he says can be relied up, and we must assume that the Conservative party is led by a liar and all he ever says are lies? Why are you changing toe subject to suit yourself.......I posted a comment on the fact that this guy in question was a toe rag and a liar....why are you making a big big thing out of it and switching things to our prime minister.....On second thoughts do not answer that as I can guess you will go in for a long winded reply and try and baffle everyone with science as you always do.....Forget I mentioned the guys in the first place as I cannot be arsed to keep you occupied all day on your computer!!!! Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists. I don't doubt the guy is shifty, but the focus of the argument wasn't about him, by making it about him you deflect from the issues that the poster engaged with - which were 'failures' of the Conservative government. Enough with your baffling scientific explanations "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 20 Oct 15 12.06pm

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Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 5.22pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 3.58pm

Quote susmik at 19 Oct 2015 3.01pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Oct 2015 11.30am

Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 2.00pm

Quote Kermit8 at 18 Oct 2015 1.48pm

Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.

We are being had, aren't we?

Enlighten us....... publish the full list!

[Link]

Happy to oblige.

[Link]

If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic.

I did not write the article Kermit did I ? But was only highlighting the fact he is a known liar !!!!!

Edited by susmik (19 Oct 2015 3.02pm)

Its a 'same rules apply' idea. Basically, its politics, they're all liars and deception artists.

Enough with your baffling scientific explanations

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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rmdavis02 21 Oct 15 12.36pm
Whether or not you think the Labour party wrecked the economy (I don't), it's actually the case that the Tories would have done exactly the same as this from the BBC before the proper start of the crisis in September 2007 demonstrates: "a Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said." (sorry, I can't find the link, but I'll keep looking and post if I do find it. Also, on higher tax rates, there's no evidence that a higher rate wouldn't bring in any more money. You need a run of several years before you can say one way or the other, because the first year, everyone makes sure they get their bonuses out before the tax rate goes up. Those who have money can always find a way to escape higher rates at least until they have been in place for a few years.
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21 Oct 15 12.36pm

Whether or not you think the Labour party wrecked the economy (I don't), it's actually the case that the Tories would have done exactly the same as this from the BBC before the proper start of the crisis in September 2007 demonstrates: "a Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said." (sorry, I can't find the link, but I'll keep looking and post if I do find it.
Also, on higher tax rates, there's no evidence that a higher rate wouldn't bring in any more money. You need a run of several years before you can say one way or the other, because the first year, everyone makes sure they get their bonuses out before the tax rate goes up. Those who have money can always find a way to escape higher rates at least until they have been in place for a few years.

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oldcodger 21 Oct 15 12.44pm
Quote rmdavis02 at 21 Oct 2015 12.36pm Whether or not you think the Labour party wrecked the economy (I don't), it's actually the case that the Tories would have done exactly the same as this from the BBC before the proper start of the crisis in September 2007 demonstrates: "a Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said." (sorry, I can't find the link, but I'll keep looking and post if I do find it. Also, on higher tax rates, there's no evidence that a higher rate wouldn't bring in any more money. You need a run of several years before you can say one way or the other, because the first year, everyone makes sure they get their bonuses out before the tax rate goes up. Those who have money can always find a way to escape higher rates at least until they have been in place for a few years. Exactly, there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it.
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Quote rmdavis02 at 21 Oct 2015 12.36pm

Whether or not you think the Labour party wrecked the economy (I don't), it's actually the case that the Tories would have done exactly the same as this from the BBC before the proper start of the crisis in September 2007 demonstrates: "a Conservative government would match Labour's projected public spending totals for the next three years, shadow chancellor George Osborne has said." (sorry, I can't find the link, but I'll keep looking and post if I do find it.
Also, on higher tax rates, there's no evidence that a higher rate wouldn't bring in any more money. You need a run of several years before you can say one way or the other, because the first year, everyone makes sure they get their bonuses out before the tax rate goes up. Those who have money can always find a way to escape higher rates at least until they have been in place for a few years.

Exactly, there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it.

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Midlands Eagle 21 Oct 15 2.26pm
Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it. Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown
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there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it.

Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown

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oldcodger 21 Oct 15 3.24pm
Quote Midlands Eagle at 21 Oct 2015 2.26pm Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it. Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown But the Tories wanted an even lighter touch, so it was simply a case of who got lumbered with the situation at the time. I don't vote for either party, I'm just pointing out that it's a politicians job to pretend it would've all been different on their watch, when everything here suggests that it wouldn't have been.
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Quote Midlands Eagle at 21 Oct 2015 2.26pm

Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm

Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown

But the Tories wanted an even lighter touch, so it was simply a case of who got lumbered with the situation at the time. I don't vote for either party, I'm just pointing out that it's a politicians job to pretend it would've all been different on their watch, when everything here suggests that it wouldn't have been.

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rmdavis02 21 Oct 15 3.29pm
I can't believe that none of this came out at the last election. The Tory victory was wholly based on the false premise that Labour wrecked the economy. All Labour had to do was wheel out the 2007 quote from George Osborne and say, "if that's true, then you would have done exactly the same". Just another indication of what an abject and unforgivable failure Labour's campaign was.
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21 Oct 15 3.29pm

I can't believe that none of this came out at the last election. The Tory victory was wholly based on the false premise that Labour wrecked the economy. All Labour had to do was wheel out the 2007 quote from George Osborne and say, "if that's true, then you would have done exactly the same". Just another indication of what an abject and unforgivable failure Labour's campaign was.

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Sportyteacher London 22 Oct 15 6.26am
Quote chris123 at 16 Oct 2015 12.57pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.51pm Quote chris123 at 16 Oct 2015 12.43pm Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm Immigration up 20% since 2010. National debt almost doubled since 2010. Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed. Anything happened about tax avoidance yet? Housing and rent out of control. Childrens services cut by 20%. This list goes on and on..... Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health. And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance. We are being had, aren't we? Enlighten us....... publish the full list! [Link] Happy to oblige. Ditto [Link] Doesn't answer any of the points on that listlist. Try again. Well if you read you'd note some doubt expressed the aspersions of Eoin Clarke. New to this post but Guido Fawkes hates Labour and will always rubbish opposition claims.
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Quote chris123 at 16 Oct 2015 12.43pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.

We are being had, aren't we?

Enlighten us....... publish the full list!

[Link]

Happy to oblige.

Ditto

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Doesn't answer any of the points on that listlist. Try again.

Well if you read you'd note some doubt expressed the aspersions of Eoin Clarke.

New to this post but Guido Fawkes hates Labour and will always rubbish opposition claims.

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Dweeb East London 22 Oct 15 8.49am
Quote Midlands Eagle at 21 Oct 2015 2.26pm Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm there was a global crisis, and whoever was in power would've been in the same position since they declared the same policy towards spending. It's all spin. We manufacture the past rather than learn from it. Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown Of course, but the Tories had been insisting from their opposition benches that they wanted even lighter touch at regulation. Where would we have been then and now? Isn't it also funny how the government is allowed to nationalise banks, but can do nothing for the steel industry And, only this last week the Tories are going on about how marvellous this bollox law about running a surplus in "normal times" (WTF that is I have no idea), yet there is clear evidence within Gideon's recent past that he said introduction of such a law is nothing but deception. Edited by Dweeb (22 Oct 2015 8.55am) Taking the bungy jump since 1964. Never to see John Jackson in a shirt again Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013
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Quote oldcodger at 21 Oct 2015 12.44pm

Not necessarily as a good part of our financial problems were down to reckless lending by the banks aided and abetted by the regulator's light hand on the tiller as instructed by Blair and Brown

Of course, but the Tories had been insisting from their opposition benches that they wanted even lighter touch at regulation. Where would we have been then and now?

Isn't it also funny how the government is allowed to nationalise banks, but can do nothing for the steel industry

And, only this last week the Tories are going on about how marvellous this bollox law about running a surplus in "normal times" (WTF that is I have no idea), yet there is clear evidence within Gideon's recent past that he said introduction of such a law is nothing but deception.

Edited by Dweeb (22 Oct 2015 8.55am)

Taking the bungy jump since 1964. Never to see John Jackson in a shirt again

Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013

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jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Oct 15 8.52am
Ssssh don't let the facts get in the way of partisan politics. Remember x is good and always right, b is always bad and to blame. Obey, consume and never watch the wires. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 22 Oct 15 8.52am

Ssssh don't let the facts get in the way of partisan politics.

Remember x is good and always right, b is always bad and to blame. Obey, consume and never watch the wires.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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We are goin up! Coulsdon 22 Oct 15 9.12am
Quote Dweeb at 22 Oct 2015 8.49am Of course, but the Tories had been insisting from their opposition benches that they wanted even lighter touch at regulation. Where would we have been then and now? Isn't it also funny how the government is allowed to nationalise banks, but can do nothing for the steel industry And, only this last week the Tories are going on about how marvellous this bollox law about running a surplus in "normal times" (WTF that is I have no idea), yet there is clear evidence within Gideon's recent past that he said introduction of such a law is nothing but deception. Edited by Dweeb (22 Oct 2015 8.55am) It's called politics. They wouldn't do it if it didn't win votes. Look what a tangle Labour got into over it. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Quote Dweeb at 22 Oct 2015 8.49am

Of course, but the Tories had been insisting from their opposition benches that they wanted even lighter touch at regulation. Where would we have been then and now?

Isn't it also funny how the government is allowed to nationalise banks, but can do nothing for the steel industry

Edited by Dweeb (22 Oct 2015 8.55am)

It's called politics. They wouldn't do it if it didn't win votes. Look what a tangle Labour got into over it.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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