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matt_himself Matataland 14 Oct 15 2.55pm | |
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Quote Red-Blue-Yellow at 14 Oct 2015 1.21pm
The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist?
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Red-Blue-Yellow Surrey 14 Oct 15 3.04pm | |
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Quote Red-Blue-Yellow at 14 Oct 2015 1.21pm
The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever.
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chris123 hove actually 14 Oct 15 3.11pm | |
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The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. Happy to debate this, but not sure to which legislation you refer. Great unemployment numbers by the way.
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ghosteagle 14 Oct 15 3.23pm | |
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The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. As the tories can hardly be described as moderate, i can see some defections from Labour to the Lib Dems up ahead.
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Oct 15 3.30pm | |
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Corbyn gives the noisy minority something to do for the next 4 years (maybe) I will predict that they could be the third party come next election.
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ghosteagle 14 Oct 15 3.36pm | |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 14 Oct 2015 3.30pm
Corbyn gives the noisy minority something to do for the next 4 years (maybe) I will predict that they could be the third party come next election. I would argue that it is too early yet to say which and indeed if the country is making any signifigant moves in terms of politics but that the election of Corbyn alone indicates that there is an appetite within the country for a leftward shift.
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Stuk Top half 14 Oct 15 3.50pm | |
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Quote Red-Blue-Yellow at 14 Oct 2015 1.21pm
The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. Happy to debate this, but not sure to which legislation you refer. Great unemployment numbers by the way. Not in Scotland though ha ha.
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npn Crowborough 14 Oct 15 3.54pm | |
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The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. Happy to debate this, but not sure to which legislation you refer. Great unemployment numbers by the way. Not in Scotland though ha ha.
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chris123 hove actually 14 Oct 15 4.09pm | |
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The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. Happy to debate this, but not sure to which legislation you refer. Great unemployment numbers by the way. Not in Scotland though ha ha.
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Stuk Top half 14 Oct 15 4.15pm | |
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Quote Red-Blue-Yellow at 14 Oct 2015 1.21pm
The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. Happy to debate this, but not sure to which legislation you refer. Great unemployment numbers by the way. Not in Scotland though ha ha.
That'll be down to their oil industry once again, that was going to fuel everything post-independence, no doubt. Edited by Stuk (14 Oct 2015 4.17pm)
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Stuk Top half 14 Oct 15 4.16pm | |
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Quote Red-Blue-Yellow at 14 Oct 2015 1.21pm
The Labour Party has been significantly re-engineered to put the membership in a controlling position. Labour MPs have to listen to what their local party wants (and most want Corbyn and his principles) or face deselection. They undermine Corbyn-and therefore the will of the membership- at their own risk. PS. He had another great PMQ's today. Clever use of follow-pn qustions. Cameron squirming and Tories trying to laugh JC down on Tax Credit cuts, housing and (sick b******s) on Breast Cancer Rates. Edited by Red-Blue-Yellow (14 Oct 2015 1.27pm) So are you saying that any Labour MP who holds moderate views cannot be a 'conviction politician' and is simply a careerist? No, rather that a moderate by conviction will not be at home in a more radical environment so, depending how 'moderate' they are, the LibDems beckon or the Tories or whatever. Happy to debate this, but not sure to which legislation you refer. Great unemployment numbers by the way. Not in Scotland though ha ha.
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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Oct 15 4.17pm | |
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 14 Oct 2015 3.30pm
Corbyn gives the noisy minority something to do for the next 4 years (maybe) I will predict that they could be the third party come next election. I would argue that it is too early yet to say which and indeed if the country is making any signifigant moves in terms of politics but that the election of Corbyn alone indicates that there is an appetite within the country for a leftward shift. For you perhaps.
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