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Catfish  Burgess Hill 08 Sep 15 5.18pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 08 Sep 2015 4.42pm
Quote Catfish at 08 Sep 2015 4.30pm
Any update on Jeremy Corbyn's announcement praising the RAF yet?
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 rob1969 Banstead Surrey 08 Sep 15 5.27pm |
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I cannot understand why Cameron said these guys were targeted - with inevitable claims of political assassination and already the legal vultures readying million pound claims on behalf of the distraught families. Better surely to just report that three UK citizens has been killed as collateral damage in a strike. Can only assume intended to warn off others that they could well expect the same treatment - but risky politically.
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 08 Sep 15 5.29pm |
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This is not Bush/Blair and Iraq. This is about national security and if it prevents ANY terror atrocities anywhere in the world then long may it continue. If you want to gun down defenceless people sitting on a beach, or hack to death a young man like Lee Rigby in the most horrific way imaginable, or indeed subscribe to those views, in my book you deserve all that is coming your way and stuff the niceties or legality of it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Sep 15 5.54pm |
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Quote sickboy at 08 Sep 2015 5.29pm
This is not Bush/Blair and Iraq. This is about national security and if it prevents ANY terror atrocities anywhere in the world then long may it continue. If you want to gun down defenceless people sitting on a beach, or hack to death a young man like Lee Rigby in the most horrific way imaginable, or indeed subscribe to those views, in my book you deserve all that is coming your way and stuff the niceties or legality of it.
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| elgrande bedford 08 Sep 15 5.59pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 08 Sep 2015 5.54pm
Quote sickboy at 08 Sep 2015 5.29pm
This is not Bush/Blair and Iraq. This is about national security and if it prevents ANY terror atrocities anywhere in the world then long may it continue. If you want to gun down defenceless people sitting on a beach, or hack to death a young man like Lee Rigby in the most horrific way imaginable, or indeed subscribe to those views, in my book you deserve all that is coming your way and stuff the niceties or legality of it.
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| nobody sussex 08 Sep 15 6.03pm |
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I see all the bleedin heart,yogurt knitting liberals,apologists for terrorists and left wing loonies are out in force. These animals were plotting to cause mass deaths in this country and you lot want the ELECTED government to now tell us what the SECRET intelligence was that justified the strike. un bleedin believable !!!
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| DanH SW2 08 Sep 15 6.10pm |
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Quote nobody at 08 Sep 2015 6.03pm
I see all the bleedin heart,yogurt knitting liberals,apologists for terrorists and left wing loonies are out in force. These animals were plotting to cause mass deaths in this country and you lot want the ELECTED government to now tell us what the SECRET intelligence was that justified the strike. un bleedin believable !!!
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| oldcodger 08 Sep 15 6.11pm |
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Quote susmik at 08 Sep 2015 4.58pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Sep 2015 4.03pm
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Sep 2015 2.50pm
Quote susmik at 08 Sep 2015 2.18pm
Does it really matter as long as they are not around to kill and maim people. Lets hope a few more go the same way. At least our prime minister had the guts to OK the drone strikes where the labourites just want to sweep it under the table. They should be ashamed of themselves as due to their vote against Syrian strikes there are thousands and thousands of people fleeing their country and invading the European union! Yeah it does matter, because sooner or later if you don't follow your own rules you end up defining targets in looser and looser sense, and you're killing people who might or might not be the enemy or you think probably are. Look at the US and its torture, abduction and detention of suspected Terrorists. It went very quickly from 'key known targets' to people who just had the misfortunate to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time or have similar names. Nothing against killing the right people. It just that when the state sponsors the assassination of individual in another country, its probably better to have good though oversight and confirmation, than to just give them a free hand and take their word for it. When someone acts in self defense, we expect them to demonstrate it was reasonable to do so. So to the state.
The side that doesn't end up having to pretend its right because it killed less innocent people than the other side. Or had to rename torture 'intensive interrogation' and hidden its own failings behind an abuse of National Security laws. I mean its not like we didn't go down this 'Trust the Intelligence, Trust my word' route with Tony Blair and the Iraq war; and that was a resounding success. But sure, lets just trust Cameron and co, and the Intelligence agencies word for it. I did not ask for your book on "I am always right and what I say goes" the simple question was "What side are you on" which has two answers. 1. On the side of our state security or 2. On the side of the killers? Simples!!! As you can see from my earlier contribution, personally I have zero sympathy for those taken out by this. However, there are multiple ways of looking at these events and this fellow has fleshed out his interpretation. To state once "what side are you on?" is ridiculous but twice is pushing it. Just because someone holds a different view it doesn't mean that they are on the side of extremists and killers. He's hardly said anything that's 'out there'. It holds together as a position.
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| johnfirewall 08 Sep 15 6.33pm |
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What's the difference? Lefties are going to moan about it anyway. What about the fact that policy was changed because of the petitions over Syrian refugees?
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| nhp61 Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 08 Sep 15 6.39pm |
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Whatever the circumstances behind the drone strike, we will probably never know. Cameron stated he took legal advice and was informed it was allowable as an act of self defence. I don't care about the rights or wrongs the lefties are wetting their knickers about, two terrorists are now dead, and that is a good result. May there be many more. Rest in pieces, scum
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| matt_himself Matataland 08 Sep 15 7.23pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 08 Sep 2015 5.54pm
Quote sickboy at 08 Sep 2015 5.29pm
This is not Bush/Blair and Iraq. This is about national security and if it prevents ANY terror atrocities anywhere in the world then long may it continue. If you want to gun down defenceless people sitting on a beach, or hack to death a young man like Lee Rigby in the most horrific way imaginable, or indeed subscribe to those views, in my book you deserve all that is coming your way and stuff the niceties or legality of it.
You should consider using em as a basis of comparison in future.
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| leggedstruggle Croydon 08 Sep 15 7.25pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 08 Sep 2015 5.54pm
Quote sickboy at 08 Sep 2015 5.29pm
This is not Bush/Blair and Iraq. This is about national security and if it prevents ANY terror atrocities anywhere in the world then long may it continue. If you want to gun down defenceless people sitting on a beach, or hack to death a young man like Lee Rigby in the most horrific way imaginable, or indeed subscribe to those views, in my book you deserve all that is coming your way and stuff the niceties or legality of it.
Looks like the drone is already here with your predictable, diversionary anti-Israel comment.
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