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derben Flag 15 May 15 11.07pm

Quote TUX at 15 May 2015 9.42pm

Quote derben at 15 May 2015 9.16pm

Surely the unions will easily get 40% to vote for action when the toiling masses are being treated as slaves by the exploitative capitalist class and their so called 'democratically' elected puppet governments? After all, all they have to lose is their chains?

Human nature (in the main) is to let somebody else do the work for them. This applies in every walk of life regardless of their political stance.
It's a sad fact of life but a fact all the same.


Edited by TUX (15 May 2015 10.08pm)

But how is the revolution (that Marx said was inevitable)to come about if the toiling masses are sitting on their arses watching Britain's Got Talent on their ipads (as they can't afford a TV) instead of going on anti-austerity marches?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 May 15 11.10pm

Quote derben at 15 May 2015 11.07pm

Quote TUX at 15 May 2015 9.42pm

Quote derben at 15 May 2015 9.16pm

Surely the unions will easily get 40% to vote for action when the toiling masses are being treated as slaves by the exploitative capitalist class and their so called 'democratically' elected puppet governments? After all, all they have to lose is their chains?

Human nature (in the main) is to let somebody else do the work for them. This applies in every walk of life regardless of their political stance.
It's a sad fact of life but a fact all the same.


Edited by TUX (15 May 2015 10.08pm)

But how is the revolution (that Marx said was inevitable)to come about if the toiling masses are sitting on their arses watching Britain's Got Talent on their ipads (as they can't afford a TV) instead of going on anti-austerity marches?

21st century soma.

 

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Pikester Flag Worthing 16 May 15 1.41am Send a Private Message to Pikester Add Pikester as a friend

Quote npn at 15 May 2015 12.48pm

I've always found it amazing that retired workers who are still members of the union get to vote on strike action. They won't have to walk out and lose a day's pay (must be some sort of power trip to be able to insist on people who actually stand to lose out by strike action when you won't personally be affected).

The comparisons with elections are, of course, fallacious (as I'm sure those making them are well aware). Expecting a decent majority in a yes/no decision seems far more reasonable than expecting it in a Con/Lab/LD/Green/UKIP/SNP/PC/Other choice.

If you get a quarter of the votes in an upwards of 6 horse race, you're doing pretty well.

Anyone who is still working and fails to vote is a bit spineless in my opinion (I can understand the whole "none of the above, they are all weasels" attitude in an election, but "I don't know whether to strike or not so I'll just leave it to others to decide" seems an indication of indifference to the issue)


Splendid post.

 


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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 16 May 15 2.29am Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 8.55pm

Could change my name to "Up Himself 3" as a mark of homage to you and the original mark 1 version perhaps



It's not matt, it's delwboy. Banned from here and the BBS I believe. His eyes swivel so much that most of the time he's looking at the inside of his own head. And that's not a nice place to be.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 May 15 10.03am

Quote ChuFukka at 15 May 2015 6.31pm

I would disagree with you on 'progress'. Your view is rather nihilist, and it assumes that progress has to be grand and overarching, when it can happen in little increments. Would you not say gay marriage legislation was progress? The introduction of the NMW?

No, I'd call it change. Progress presumes some truth towards which we march, but there is no truth and that somehow the future will be a better tomorrow, not different.

In reality, the world changes and people change and society changes, but its not for the better, its just change, and it can go 'the other way'


 


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legaleagle Flag 16 May 15 10.56am

Quote Seth at 16 May 2015 2.29am

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 8.55pm

Could change my name to "Up Himself 3" as a mark of homage to you and the original mark 1 version perhaps



It's not matt, it's delwboy. Banned from here and the BBS I believe. His eyes swivel so much that most of the time he's looking at the inside of his own head. And that's not a nice place to be.

I see,so both "derben" and "The Judge" are posters who have unfortunately been banned by the BBS before joining our happy bunch?


Edited by legaleagle (16 May 2015 10.56am)

 

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derben Flag 16 May 15 11.46am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 May 2015 10.03am

Quote ChuFukka at 15 May 2015 6.31pm

I would disagree with you on 'progress'. Your view is rather nihilist, and it assumes that progress has to be grand and overarching, when it can happen in little increments. Would you not say gay marriage legislation was progress? The introduction of the NMW?

No, I'd call it change. Progress presumes some truth towards which we march, but there is no truth and that somehow the future will be a better tomorrow, not different.

In reality, the world changes and people change and society changes, but its not for the better, its just change, and it can go 'the other way'


I more or less agree with this; but everyday life has got better over the years, progress is not an illusion, it happens, but it is slow and often disappointing.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 May 15 12.27pm

Quote derben at 16 May 2015 11.46am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 May 2015 10.03am

Quote ChuFukka at 15 May 2015 6.31pm

I would disagree with you on 'progress'. Your view is rather nihilist, and it assumes that progress has to be grand and overarching, when it can happen in little increments. Would you not say gay marriage legislation was progress? The introduction of the NMW?

No, I'd call it change. Progress presumes some truth towards which we march, but there is no truth and that somehow the future will be a better tomorrow, not different.

In reality, the world changes and people change and society changes, but its not for the better, its just change, and it can go 'the other way'


I more or less agree with this; but everyday life has got better over the years, progress is not an illusion, it happens, but it is slow and often disappointing.


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 May 15 1.38pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

I hope the clergy have a union.

 


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derben Flag 16 May 15 8.58pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 May 2015 12.27pm

Quote derben at 16 May 2015 11.46am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 May 2015 10.03am

Quote ChuFukka at 15 May 2015 6.31pm

I would disagree with you on 'progress'. Your view is rather nihilist, and it assumes that progress has to be grand and overarching, when it can happen in little increments. Would you not say gay marriage legislation was progress? The introduction of the NMW?

No, I'd call it change. Progress presumes some truth towards which we march, but there is no truth and that somehow the future will be a better tomorrow, not different.

In reality, the world changes and people change and society changes, but its not for the better, its just change, and it can go 'the other way'


I more or less agree with this; but everyday life has got better over the years, progress is not an illusion, it happens, but it is slow and often disappointing.


That's a very long link Nick - even for you. Thanks for the applause though, the problem is, I expect we will disagree as to what constitutes 'progress'.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 May 15 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote Jimenez at 16 May 2015 1.38pm

I hope the clergy have a union.


*Cough* I said 'I hope the clergy have a union'

 


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Pawson Palace Flag Croydon 21 May 15 2.02pm Send a Private Message to Pawson Palace Add Pawson Palace as a friend

Seems TSSA have backed down over weekend strikes.

Shame those CUNDS at RMT won't put the entire nation first for a change.

 


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