Of course, I sent that in reply to a statement that "the police will allow the pro-Palestine demonstration to go past the Cenotaph twice" which is just factually untrue.

Any trouble on Saturday is going to come from the people looking for it, on both sides - there's absolutely no reasons for the two events to overlap at all.

Braverman's discourse around this has done nothing but stoke the flames and she's as responsible as anyone if it does go off.

Blah, blah, blah...

Hamas, based in Gaza, decided to attack Israel, killing soldiers, civilians, and, oh, lets mention the kids the terrorists killed, by shooting, decapitation and burning.

Hamas knew full well the reaction from Israel. Even people with half a brain could see that the Israelis would wreak vengeance in response to the attack.

Simple, if Hamas had not attacked Israel, Gaza wouldn't have been flattened, no wall to wall TV news gleefully letting the world know how many children were killed by Israel, and there wouldn't be crowds in the streets of London whinging about the nasty Israelis.

Yes, I can maybe see why Muslims are upset, after all, there is a long lasting enmity between the two faiths. But the rest of the bunch grizzling and waving Palestinian flags are mainly lefties, who are intrinsically anti-Jewish, anti-right, in fact, anti-anything they don't agree with.

I saw online there was a group calling themselves "Queers For Palestine". I'm sure they'll be welcome with open arms in Gaza, and then, irrespective of wrapping themselves in a Palestine flag, tossed off of the top of any building that may not have been razed. As likely, if there are no buildings left, there'll be plenty of stones to cheerfully clobber them to death with. They are a perfect example of deranged lefties.

Yes, Palestinians are being killed, but blame Hamas, they were the ones who brought this on.

Yes because the police refused to arrest people breaking the law. I am not saying everybody on these marches are bad but to suggest there was no widespread hate mongers is to be naive.

Incredible stuff.

That is the complaint. I am not a lawyer so I wont pretend to know the answer but she was entitled to speak out. If people cause trouble this weekend it's on their head "Braverman made me do it" isn't an excuse.

MLK was told on many occasions not to march or there would be violence his answer was to ensure the marchers were peaceful and any violence was from the police and racists. That's how he won the argument, or as Obama said if they go low we go higher.

Edited by Badger11 (10 Nov 2023 9.49am)

You were happy enough to state as a matter of fact that we’ve had weeks of hate and anti-semitism though.

Braverman has made the risk of trouble significantly higher - I don’t think that’s contestable. She hasn’t ‘spoken out’ - she’s labelled hundreds of thousands of protestors as hate marchers and anti semites because she doesn’t agree with them. That’s inflammatory by any definition.

I’ve no idea why you’ve decided on that MLK reference - all of the commentary from the organisers of the demonstration are also calling for peaceful protest in exactly the same way.