No what you are pushing is the load of tosh and it's very dangerous tosh at that.

I don't have time to deal with this at the moment I have to go out. However, If you want an answer to your 'understanding' I will address this tosh later.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It is dangerous to look at facts in a scientific manner. Well, yes it is. Scares the life out of those that live in a fantasy world.

I did not say they should be shown understanding in the way you imply. We need to understand the pattern and deal with it.

If you were a Ukrainian General would you wish to understand how the Russians think?

I'M not sure if that is analogous. I'm sure you are fully aware that the issue is that the left have a history of trying to normalise that which has been abnormal. This has not always produced positive results for the majority.

My lot?!

Massive assumption.

So it doesn't count as sexual abuse if it's homosexual?

What utter horsesh1te.

Ok, lets deal with your dangerous views and look at your points.

I have an actual STEM degree yet your incredible arrogance thinks you can tell me what 'science' is.....I guess we can't expect much better from HR.

First this claim that these definitions are 'science'. Let's be clear, this is 'social science' which many regard as having spurious claims. For example, 'critical race theory' is backed by the same 'science'. Whereas twenty years ago it didn't.

The only difference between those two times is in the nature of politics of the field now. Now the social sciences are essentially progressives pushing ideology. Similar to paedophilia, there is nothing new here that we didn't know sixty years ago. The only difference is that these fields are now populated by the progressives. Jordan Peterson has talked about how this has happened and he comes from these fields himself.

This claim that we should just accept something 'scientists' say. Yeah? Well the Nazis had 'scientists' backing their claims as well. Do you accept them as well then?....Guess not. Perhaps anyone left wing in a white coat is a kind of god for you.

People representing 'science' talk crap all the time. Al Gore was telling us that the 'science' was making all kinds of predictions that turned out to be wrong. What consequence did he suffer for being wrong? Errr None. That's a clue to why a lot of this stuff is spread. Funding and lack of negative consequence.

You can find social 'scientists' who will tell you that race doesn't exist? A conclusion that's also just word play with categories designed for a political purpose and to keep their pay cheques going.

You try to present 'science' as if it's something that isn't to be questioned, when the reality is that science isn't that at all. Science isn't about consensus and in fact most of its breakthroughs came from outside of it.

Onto another errorous point you make. The idea that this 'science' and re-catogoring would work to reduce sexual offending.

More horsesh1te.

I heard the same crap back when sexual education was being promoted to be taught in schools. I watched t***s on telly telling everyone that we needed sex education to reduce teenage pregnancy and sex outside stable relationships.

What was the result?.....teenage pregnancies increased and marriage continued to decline.

What did the geniuses tell us....oh we needed more sex education....what was the result, just more of the same outcomes.

What price did these people pay for being wrong? Nothing, their goal was achieved they didn't have to answer for worsening the social metrics.

In the view of anyone with common sense the exact same reality applies here. If you take away the social stigma attached to the sexual abuse of children you increase the incidents of it happening.

If academics in the social sciences want to define categories amongst the sickos amongst themselves then that's one thing. When it results in our Police Forces adopting the same language a line has been crossed.

Social conservatives hold the line. Progressivism is responsible for those lines being crossed and its adherents are responsible for all the worsening social metrics within society with all the increased suffering it has brought......from reduced social cohesion to fatherless children to the mentally ill thinking they are a different sex to increased child abuse sexual or otherwise and all the rest of it.

People with common sense need to run society again. All we have are failures with egos.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 7.21pm)

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