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Glazier#1 31 Dec 22 11.01am
Originally posted by georgenorman What passes for the Left these days celebrate all sorts of sexual perversions, only a matter of time before they try to legalise pedophilia. Ha ha.
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Glazier#1

31 Dec 22 11.01am

Originally posted by georgenorman

What passes for the Left these days celebrate all sorts of sexual perversions, only a matter of time before they try to legalise pedophilia.

Ha ha.

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Glazier#1 31 Dec 22 11.08am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You can only reduce it. In a phrase that reduction is done via social conservatism.....not the politics of the 'Hollyweird' progressive neo liberals. What>!?! Centuries of social conservatism certainly did prevent sexual abuse against children, didn't it. Within probably the most socially conservative institution of all, the Catholic Church, there flourished an unpunished, open- secret world where sexual depravity was rife - a disgrace. Sometimes you do come up with some drivel, my paranoid friend. Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Dec 2022 11.09am)
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31 Dec 22 11.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You can only reduce it.

In a phrase that reduction is done via social conservatism.....not the politics of the 'Hollyweird' progressive neo liberals.

What>!?!

Centuries of social conservatism certainly did prevent sexual abuse against children, didn't it.

Within probably the most socially conservative institution of all, the Catholic Church, there flourished an unpunished, open- secret world where sexual depravity was rife - a disgrace.

Sometimes you do come up with some drivel, my paranoid friend.

Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Dec 2022 11.09am)

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Mapletree Croydon 31 Dec 22 11.28am
Originally posted by georgenorman What passes for the Left these days celebrate all sorts of sexual perversions, only a matter of time before they try to legalise pedophilia. You should take a long hard look at yourself. You really think the desire to protect children is party political? I suggest you change where you take your drip-feed of 'information' from to something more scientific.
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Croydon 31 Dec 22 11.28am

Originally posted by georgenorman

What passes for the Left these days celebrate all sorts of sexual perversions, only a matter of time before they try to legalise pedophilia.

You should take a long hard look at yourself. You really think the desire to protect children is party political? I suggest you change where you take your drip-feed of 'information' from to something more scientific.

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The Dolphin 31 Dec 22 12.01pm
Actually - I think that Sturgeon got this through for political support for Independence. It cannot surely be for any right minded reason can it?
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31 Dec 22 12.01pm

Actually - I think that Sturgeon got this through for political support for Independence.
It cannot surely be for any right minded reason can it?

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georgenorman 31 Dec 22 12.12pm
Originally posted by Mapletree You should take a long hard look at yourself. You really think the desire to protect children is party political? I suggest you change where you take your drip-feed of 'information' from to something more scientific. It does not look like a desire to protect children, it looks like a desire to protect pedophiles. What drip-feed of 'information'?
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georgenorman

31 Dec 22 12.12pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

It does not look like a desire to protect children, it looks like a desire to protect pedophiles. What drip-feed of 'information'?

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Stirlingsays 31 Dec 22 1.28pm
Originally posted by georgenorman It does not look like a desire to protect children, it looks like a desire to protect pedophiles. What drip-feed of 'information'? You hit the nail right on the head. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

31 Dec 22 1.28pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

It does not look like a desire to protect children, it looks like a desire to protect pedophiles. What drip-feed of 'information'?

You hit the nail right on the head.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 31 Dec 22 1.31pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin Actually - I think that Sturgeon got this through for political support for Independence. It cannot surely be for any right minded reason can it? It's just a natural consequences of progressivism. It's always onto the next convention. This will take them time but they won't stop unless they are stopped. They always start with the language as that's the indoctrination and perceptions are created. Then it's onto the laws. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 1.45pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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31 Dec 22 1.31pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Actually - I think that Sturgeon got this through for political support for Independence.
It cannot surely be for any right minded reason can it?

It's just a natural consequences of progressivism.

It's always onto the next convention. This will take them time but they won't stop unless they are stopped.

They always start with the language as that's the indoctrination and perceptions are created. Then it's onto the laws.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 1.45pm)

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Stirlingsays 31 Dec 22 1.35pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 What>!?! Centuries of social conservatism certainly did prevent sexual abuse against children, didn't it. Within probably the most socially conservative institution of all, the Catholic Church, there flourished an unpunished, open- secret world where sexual depravity was rife - a disgrace. Sometimes you do come up with some drivel, my paranoid friend. Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Dec 2022 11.09am) Errrr....sexual abuse in the Church is mainly due to....how should I put this, not straight people. Nevertheless, only social conservatism can be trusted to do anything about it. You lot will end up legalising it. Social conservatism has no time for sexual perversion around kids. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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31 Dec 22 1.35pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

What>!?!

Centuries of social conservatism certainly did prevent sexual abuse against children, didn't it.

Within probably the most socially conservative institution of all, the Catholic Church, there flourished an unpunished, open- secret world where sexual depravity was rife - a disgrace.

Sometimes you do come up with some drivel, my paranoid friend.

Edited by Glazier#1 (31 Dec 2022 11.09am)

Errrr....sexual abuse in the Church is mainly due to....how should I put this, not straight people.

Nevertheless, only social conservatism can be trusted to do anything about it. You lot will end up legalising it.

Social conservatism has no time for sexual perversion around kids.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 31 Dec 22 1.41pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Empathy is the last thing I had in mind. Rather I was thinking influencing and controlling. Two thirds of Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) is not related to paedophilia. A company I worked for was in the process of setting up a secure hospital for abusers, apparently nobody wants anything to do with them. Fancy! Edited by Mapletree (31 Dec 2022 10.13am) If they cannot control their feelings the potential is there to carry it on in the physical sense. Drink bromide and castration should sort it out.
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The garden of England 31 Dec 22 1.41pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Empathy is the last thing I had in mind. Rather I was thinking influencing and controlling.

Two thirds of Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) is not related to paedophilia. A company I worked for was in the process of setting up a secure hospital for abusers, apparently nobody wants anything to do with them. Fancy!

Edited by Mapletree (31 Dec 2022 10.13am)

If they cannot control their feelings the potential is there to carry it on in the physical sense. Drink bromide and castration should sort it out.

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Stirlingsays 31 Dec 22 1.43pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Don’t you have Wikipedia on your computer? Explains a lot Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children Note that this sexual attraction does not need to, and apparently rarely does, result in child sexual offences. Also note that most child sexual abuse isn’t paedophilia as it doesn’t relate to prepubescent children (according to the BMJ). Now, what were you saying about thought crime? Can you now see how a Minor Attracted Person may not be a paedophile? To influence potential offenders, first you must understand them. This is exactly what I said previously. They start with the language. They attempt to re-categorie. As for Wikipedia, that's nothing but a progressive sh1tshow. No Maple, on this you can take a long run off a short pier. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 1.44pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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31 Dec 22 1.43pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Don’t you have Wikipedia on your computer? Explains a lot

Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children

Note that this sexual attraction does not need to, and apparently rarely does, result in child sexual offences.

Also note that most child sexual abuse isn’t paedophilia as it doesn’t relate to prepubescent children (according to the BMJ).

Now, what were you saying about thought crime?

Can you now see how a Minor Attracted Person may not be a paedophile? To influence potential offenders, first you must understand them.

This is exactly what I said previously.

They start with the language. They attempt to re-categorie. As for Wikipedia, that's nothing but a progressive sh1tshow.

No Maple, on this you can take a long run off a short pier.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 1.44pm)

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Mapletree Croydon 31 Dec 22 1.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Errrr....sexual abuse in the Church is mainly due to....how should I put this, not straight people. Nevertheless, only social conservatism can be trusted to do anything about it. You lot will end up legalising it. Social conservatism has no time for sexual perversion around kids. What a load of tosh. If you bury an issue then people can carry on doing whatever they want without it coming to light and being dealt with. How many blooming examples do you have to see before that gets into your mentality? You need to address root causes. I note that you have not responded to my points and questions. To repeat, if you want to minimise Child Sexual Abuse you need to understand how it comes about and deal with potential abusers BEFORE they abuse. Locking them up after the event, which presumably is what your Social Conservatism would recommend, does not prevent the damage being done. It is probably not even a deterrent, I don't understand an abuser's mind-set but I suspect they aren't really considering consequences.
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Croydon 31 Dec 22 1.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Errrr....sexual abuse in the Church is mainly due to....how should I put this, not straight people.

Nevertheless, only social conservatism can be trusted to do anything about it. You lot will end up legalising it.

Social conservatism has no time for sexual perversion around kids.

What a load of tosh. If you bury an issue then people can carry on doing whatever they want without it coming to light and being dealt with. How many blooming examples do you have to see before that gets into your mentality? You need to address root causes.

I note that you have not responded to my points and questions. To repeat, if you want to minimise Child Sexual Abuse you need to understand how it comes about and deal with potential abusers BEFORE they abuse. Locking them up after the event, which presumably is what your Social Conservatism would recommend, does not prevent the damage being done. It is probably not even a deterrent, I don't understand an abuser's mind-set but I suspect they aren't really considering consequences.

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Mapletree Croydon 31 Dec 22 1.49pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This is exactly what I said previously. They start with the language. They attempt to re-categorie. As for Wikipedia, that's nothing but a progressive sh1tshow. No Maple, on this you can take a long run off a short pier. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 1.44pm) FFS. You talk about paedophiles. First, not all of them are abusers and second they represent a minority of Child Sexual Abusers. Sort your facts out and stop spouting emotional claptrap that will do nothing to address the real issues. Why don't you answer my initial question, how would YOU reduce the number of children being abused? And don't give me woolly nonsense about how social conservatism will fix it, I want details.
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Croydon 31 Dec 22 1.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is exactly what I said previously.

They start with the language. They attempt to re-categorie. As for Wikipedia, that's nothing but a progressive sh1tshow.

No Maple, on this you can take a long run off a short pier.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2022 1.44pm)

FFS. You talk about paedophiles. First, not all of them are abusers and second they represent a minority of Child Sexual Abusers. Sort your facts out and stop spouting emotional claptrap that will do nothing to address the real issues.

Why don't you answer my initial question, how would YOU reduce the number of children being abused? And don't give me woolly nonsense about how social conservatism will fix it, I want details.

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