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Why aren't we an established Premier League club
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 CPFC1965  Warrington 09 Aug 20 12.08pm |
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When the chances of relegation is is nigh on impossible
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| orpingtoneagle Orpington 09 Aug 20 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
At the time Parish acknowledged that we paid over the odds for some players in order to attract them here. That's helped change us from a team who initially looked nailed on for relegation every season to a team that now just flirts with relegation. AWB would have gone to Man U whatever happend. Weve done excellently to keep Zaha for this long. And you will no doubt tell us that Parish is the saviour and without him we would not have a club. I would say the only 'marquee,' signing was Cabaye and the others were a case of a panic buy mostly Liverpool cast offs and we were ripped off. We have had the same manager now (for us) for a long time. In that time of supposed stability we have it seems run out of money spending little or getting free transfers on over in flared wages. Stability has helped us survive and it seems right now our only ambition seems to be survival.
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| Elpis In a pub 09 Aug 20 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by CPFC1965
When the chances of relegation is is nigh on impossible Were established then
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 09 Aug 20 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
And you will no doubt tell us that Parish is the saviour and without him we would not have a club. I would say the only 'marquee,' signing was Cabaye and the others were a case of a panic buy mostly Liverpool cast offs and we were ripped off. We have had the same manager now (for us) for a long time. In that time of supposed stability we have it seems run out of money spending little or getting free transfers on over in flared wages. Stability has helped us survive and it seems right now our only ambition seems to be survival.
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| HesHereHesThere Beckenham 09 Aug 20 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by doombear
Are you trying to say that SP wasn't our 'saviour in 2010? Where would we have been without him do you think? There were four of them that saved the club but Parish went for the glory. After 8 seasons and £1.1bn what have we got to show for it? A new pitch, a bit of cladding, one FA cup final, £20m now going on the academy but boring sh*t football with no goals and a fooking old squad and no money....this is his mess and he needs to sort it out, it’s fooking embarrassing.
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| orpingtoneagle Orpington 09 Aug 20 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by doombear
No I would say that for some that (true) simple fact renders him untouchable. My counter is that since then he has made and continues to make a handsome living from the club whilst around him as a club we are at best standing still at worse struggling.
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| Vaibow vancouver/croydon 09 Aug 20 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
But we are an established Premier League club. We always look over our shoulder at relegation.. Everton, wolves, Leicester, west ham, burnley don't start the season thinking 'let's focus on not getting relegated' - sure, the west ham's have lost their way and get themselves in trouble... but that's the difference in an established prem club... We, it's well documented that we over spent trying to fix errors... and now look to be neutral again.. if we make 2/3 more signings of potential this summer, it could mean a mid table finish with not even a sniff of relegation... which then means next summer, one/two signings is only really needed and we grow as a club and become established... basically where we are now, we should ahem been after our 3rd season...
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jeeagles  09 Aug 20 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
No I would say that for some that (true) simple fact renders him untouchable. My counter is that since then he has made and continues to make a handsome living from the club whilst around him as a club we are at best standing still at worse struggling. Many speak exactly the same way about Hodgson, a man who doesn't seem to take accountability for anything. Parishes track record is nothing short of remarkable. Trying to write it off to protect Roy Hodgson piss poor performance last year is even more remarkable.
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| orpingtoneagle Orpington 09 Aug 20 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Many speak exactly the same way about Hodgson, a man who doesn't seem to take accountability for anything. Parishes track record is nothing short of remarkable. Trying to write it off to protect Roy Hodgson piss poor performance last year is even more remarkable. Remarkable? Well I guess people pass remarks. I have not mentioned Roy aside from in the context he has been here a while and offered some stability. Mr Parish can run the club as he sees fit. It is his along with the Yanks to do so. (And they all do very well out of it.) But I would not say his performance has been remarkable. We are as a club struggling to simply stand still and in football terms that pretty much equals going backwards. Maybe that is the managers fault but equally we have needed a striker now for the last few windows and failed to sign one (well apart from one who we sent on a very generous one way loan deal) So maybe one thing we have is a remarkable transfer policy.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 09 Aug 20 6.41pm |
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We are an established PL club but the term itself is illusory, as we could get relegated along with a dozen or more other clubs. The PL is simply the domain of the super rich and is run for them and by them. If there was a handicap system that equalised the chances then that would be different. I am disenchanted with the PL and football in general, particularly with remote decision making by dubious VAR. Will people will automatically go back I think not and it is a real surprise to me people are talking up transfer deals in the current crisis.
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| jeeagles 09 Aug 20 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Remarkable? Well I guess people pass remarks. I have not mentioned Roy aside from in the context he has been here a while and offered some stability. Mr Parish can run the club as he sees fit. It is his along with the Yanks to do so. (And they all do very well out of it.) But I would not say his performance has been remarkable. We are as a club struggling to simply stand still and in football terms that pretty much equals going backwards. Maybe that is the managers fault but equally we have needed a striker now for the last few windows and failed to sign one (well apart from one who we sent on a very generous one way loan deal) So maybe one thing we have is a remarkable transfer policy. We've pretty much got a new striker every transfer window. Last window - Tosun on loan who BFS wanted to spend £25m on as he was the top scorer in Turkey. Whilst we were happy to sent out Wickham which was inexplicable as far as I was concerned. Then Ayew, Batshuayi, Ayew (loan), Sorloth, Benteke, Wickham, Campbell, Adebayor, Remy, Chemakh, Sonogo, Gayle, Jerome. The most successful being Benteke when we played to his strenght. Clearly not a panic buy as we spent the whole summer negotiating the fee. Would be nice if we tried to set the team up to the players strengths. In the mean time. We've just got to keep hunting to unearth the next goalscorer. In recent history, that's relied more on luck than throwing cash around (Murray, Johnson, Morrison, Jansen, Armstrong, Wright vs Kuqi, Akinbuyi, Gabiadini)
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| bashy2 London 09 Aug 20 7.11pm |
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When we stop having a relegation battle and can establish ourselves in the top 10 every year that's when we will be an established PL club
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