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PatrickA Flag London 01 Mar 21 7.55am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The Telegraph ran a piece a few days ago on Palace suggesting there were summer plans to extend four of the expiring contracts, sign four new players and bring in two loans.
No idea what the basis of this story is.
Apparently there was an attempt to buy Sarr in an earlier window for a sum in excess of £20 million which would indicate there is some capacity to spend.
You would think a new left back will be on the list if PVA departs, at least one midfield player, a new centre back and a new wide player.
Other additions would depend on who leaves.
A busy couple of windows seem likely.

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 01 Mar 21 7.55am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Going down!

 

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Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 01 Mar 21 8.02am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

We will extend contracts, get loanees in and sign a few players. The likes of Sakho will go and we will free up the wage bill.

We will balance the books as best we can and get through this period. Whether we will still be a Premiership club is another matter altogether.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Mar 21 9.24am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The Telegraph ran a piece a few days ago on Palace suggesting there were summer plans to extend four of the expiring contracts, sign four new players and bring in two loans.
No idea what the basis of this story is.
Apparently there was an attempt to buy Sarr in an earlier window for a sum in excess of £20 million which would indicate there is some capacity to spend.
You would think a new left back will be on the list if PVA departs, at least one midfield player, a new centre back and a new wide player.
Other additions would depend on who leaves.
A busy couple of windows seem likely.

Yes I have seen similar. I do wonder whether LB will not be a priority, given we have Mitchell, Schlupp, Ferguson (?) all who can play there. Definitely CB, creative midfielder and wide player. If rumours are true and Lundstram joins he will be replacement for McCarthy/MacArthur presumably.
My concern is all clubs know we will be desperately seeking to rejuvenate the squad, so replacements won’t come easy or cheaply

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 01 Mar 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

We have painted ourselves into a corner with inadequate investment and a negative approach that is slowly but surely grinding down our existing decent players. We have become grateful for fortunate wins as opposed to them being deserved and become accustomed to pitiful performances against mediocre opposition.

We are a first team squad in decline with no support from the U23s and we have 6 months to sort it all out otherwise we will be nailed on certainties for relegation next year. I would suggest that is too short a period of time to resolve the issues we have as we appear to have investors who don’t wish to speculate any further.

Our policy of clinging on without steady window by window player investment is coming home to roost so let’s hope for two more wins out of 12 and then enjoy what could be our final year at the top level for this time around.

I’ll be delighted if someone finds the money to dig us out of this hole we have dug for ourselves, but I’m not convinced it’s going to happen. We will end up with 70% of our squad who are past their best getting a years extension to their contracts and we will soon discover that backs to the wall football from day 1 of the next season will not be sufficient to earn enough points to stay up.

It all sounds very downbeat doesn’t it, but until Parish tells us something different I can’t see it going any other way.

 

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palace99 Flag New Mills 01 Mar 21 9.57am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

They were one year extensions last august, all four end on June 30th 2021


No Jeff, Jimmy Mac and Kelly were already contracted to 2021, so the extensions take them to 2022.

These 3 are definitely not out of contract this summer.

However, whilst we clearly need to get rid of high earning deadwood - Tekkers, Sakho and Wickham etc
we have a massive issue this summer as has been repeatedly discussed over the last few months.

Of those 3 who have re-signed none are immediate first choices too - Jimmy Mac is 33 and hasn't scored a goal in over 2 years, Kelly hasn't played at all this season and the jury is still out on Jeff (plus his mixed injury record).

We clearly need reinforcements across every position of the team

 

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PatrickA Flag London 01 Mar 21 10.03am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

In fairness to Hodgson, and I don’t always feel disposed that way, he did point out a year or so ago that the squad would need to be bolstered owing to the ageing nature of many of the players.We haven’t done this as quickly as we should have , but let’s hope we properly address the situation this summer.

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

We have painted ourselves into a corner with inadequate investment and a negative approach that is slowly but surely grinding down our existing decent players. We have become grateful for fortunate wins as opposed to them being deserved and become accustomed to pitiful performances against mediocre opposition.

We are a first team squad in decline with no support from the U23s and we have 6 months to sort it all out otherwise we will be nailed on certainties for relegation next year. I would suggest that is too short a period of time to resolve the issues we have as we appear to have investors who don’t wish to speculate any further.

Our policy of clinging on without steady window by window player investment is coming home to roost so let’s hope for two more wins out of 12 and then enjoy what could be our final year at the top level for this time around.

I’ll be delighted if someone finds the money to dig us out of this hole we have dug for ourselves, but I’m not convinced it’s going to happen. We will end up with 70% of our squad who are past their best getting a years extension to their contracts and we will soon discover that backs to the wall football from day 1 of the next season will not be sufficient to earn enough points to stay up.

It all sounds very downbeat doesn’t it, but until Parish tells us something different I can’t see it going any other way.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Mar 21 10.14am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

In fairness to Hodgson, and I don’t always feel disposed that way, he did point out a year or so ago that the squad would need to be bolstered owing to the ageing nature of many of the players.We haven’t done this as quickly as we should have , but let’s hope we properly address the situation this summer.

Camarasa and Meyer were brought in to try and add some creativity and we know what happened!
We purchased Ferguson who had an injury and hasn't now played for over a year.
Eze was purchased and is now receiving a degree of criticism pertaining to his workrate and defensive awareness.Perhaps he would lose his place to a fit Schlupp.
Mateta has been signed but it would appear that Mr Hodgson prefers Benteke who is more suited to the way we play.
Batshuayi has been a major disappointment and I suspect will not be signed by us on a permanent basis.

Squad has been bolstered,some did not work out, and some a 'Work in progress' in the PL.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Mar 21 10.16am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The Telegraph ran a piece a few days ago on Palace suggesting there were summer plans to extend four of the expiring contracts, sign four new players and bring in two loans.
No idea what the basis of this story is.
Apparently there was an attempt to buy Sarr in an earlier window for a sum in excess of £20 million which would indicate there is some capacity to spend.

Not necessarily as the club must be making significant losses in these covid times. The accounts for the year ended 30th June 2019 showed gate receipts of £10.6. plus advertising revenue of £10m. The former will have completely disappeared whilst the later will have been drastically cut so if there was cash available for transfers last summer it doesn't mean that it's still there.

The only way that we will be able to buy new players is if the Americans and Parish dip their hands deep into their pockets

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 01 Mar 21 10.19am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Camarasa and Meyer were brought in to try and add some creativity and we know what happened!
We purchased Ferguson who had an injury and hasn't now played for over a year.
Eze was purchased and is now receiving a degree of criticism pertaining to his workrate and defensive awareness.Perhaps he would lose his place to a fit Schlupp.
Mateta has been signed but it would appear that Mr Hodgson prefers Benteke who is more suited to the way we play.
Batshuayi has been a major disappointment and I suspect will not be signed by us on a permanent basis.

It shows what happens when the buying decisions are made by a PR man and a failed Championship manager

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 01 Mar 21 10.33am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Aj's_Magic_Hat

25 man squad.

keepers
Guaita, Butland ***** *youth team*

RB
Ward/Clyne and Ferguson

CB
Tomkins / Kouyate / Sign two CB young

LB
Mitchell / Sign LB Expierence

Wide players

Wilf, Eze sign 2 young wingers


Cen Mid
McArthur, Luka, Schlupp and Jario

Strikers
Ayew, Mateta sign one young and one expierence

signing 7 players younger and on less wages than Benteke and Sakho.

Thats a 23, dont understand why that is so hard if the guys at the club are doing their job.


You/re dreaming. It isn't a question of doing one's job, it is about not having the vast resources required.

Also, Mark Hughes made an important point in yesterday's half time analysis. Big dramatic change is bad. While the play is dull, the players are clearly comfortable with it. Try and introduce radical change - 7 changes! - in a team that already operates on the margins of safe mid table and cliff-edge relegation, and we will go down.

Perhaps we need to invest in 3/4 quality players that will enable us to go back to e.g. "early Roy" or equivalent.

 

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palace99 Flag New Mills 01 Mar 21 12.26pm

Originally posted by silvertop

You/re dreaming. It isn't a question of doing one's job, it is about not having the vast resources required.

Also, Mark Hughes made an important point in yesterday's half time analysis. Big dramatic change is bad. While the play is dull, the players are clearly comfortable with it. Try and introduce radical change - 7 changes! - in a team that already operates on the margins of safe mid table and cliff-edge relegation, and we will go down.

Perhaps we need to invest in 3/4 quality players that will enable us to go back to e.g. "early Roy" or equivalent.

good point - remember deBoer tried to change us and look what happened.

Just looking back on the team a few years ago - when we beat Leicester 5 - 0 playing 442 the defence wasn't massively different to now and the midfield 4 was Loftus-Cheek, Luka, Cabeye and Jimmy Mac, so essentially 4 centre mids with no great creativity on paper


 

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