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chateauferret  24 Jan 17 8.52pm |
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Originally posted by leejaneagles
He's hardly Ivory Coast born and bred though is he? It hasn't really been mentioned perhaps because it gives the connotations of racism but the lad has a Croydon accent, has played tournaments for England and this whole Ivory Coast decision came about when he realised his at his prime age now and not going to be a starter for England in the next 2 tournaments. I know we were all baffled when our very own Big Sam chose Townsend over Zaha last year but there was never any doubt of Wilf rejecting the call had it come. I don't think Zaha has been umming and arring about this for a while, there was never any hint of Wilf rejecting England if they wanted him. Also, this may be too cynical but his "other" nationality is one of the top teams in Africa, as I mentioned earlier they won the AFCON last time and Wilf could well see another one in the future. I wonder how patriotic he'd of been had his second nationality been one of the African whipping boys of the competition. Edited by leejaneagles (24 Jan 2017 8.46pm) Sam was only in charge for one match and that was the one straight after the disgraceful performance against Iceland, so wide departures from previous were unlikely and Townsend had been picked before. I believe it was Southgate who shut the door in Wilf's face and I was kinda hoping he would show them what they've been missing. Well, I hope he still will. Anyway England's next appearance at a World Cup is likely to be another round of the kind of shambles we are now used to and he is better out of it. To say they had egg on their faces at the Euros would be an understatement.
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 Alex1991  Ashford 24 Jan 17 8.54pm |
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He's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Wilf is coming home
"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017. |
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| Bangell Oxford 24 Jan 17 8.54pm |
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Well this is a huge boost for us. Hopefully Wilf has a renewed determination too.
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| chateauferret 24 Jan 17 8.54pm |
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Well that's it, IC are out.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 24 Jan 17 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by leejaneagles
He's hardly Ivory Coast born and bred though is he? It hasn't really been mentioned perhaps because it gives the connotations of racism but the lad has a Croydon accent, has played tournaments for England and this whole Ivory Coast decision came about when he realised his at his prime age now and not going to be a starter for England in the next 2 tournaments. I know we were all baffled when our very own Big Sam chose Townsend over Zaha last year but there was never any doubt of Wilf rejecting the call had it come. I don't think Zaha has been umming and arring about this for a while, there was never any hint of Wilf rejecting England if they wanted him. Also, this may be too cynical but his "other" nationality is one of the top teams in Africa, as I mentioned earlier they won the AFCON last time and Wilf could well see another one in the future. I wonder how patriotic he'd of been had his second nationality been one of the African whipping boys of the competition. Edited by leejaneagles (24 Jan 2017 8.46pm) I believe he was born there, and not Croydon.
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| Bullhorn76 Darlington 24 Jan 17 8.55pm |
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Feel sorry for poor wilf but chuffed that he's coming back
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BelfastEagle  24 Jan 17 8.56pm |
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watched some of the Ivory Coast game, well as much as I could take ....I won't be watching any more of the afcon.....
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| leejaneagles 24 Jan 17 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
I agree with your points, but I do believe that he spoke French at home and sends a portion of his wages to Ivory Coast. So it's not a completely tenuous link. Fair play and I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to call himself Ivorian or that he doesn't care. I do think though there are a lot of players that technically have dual Nationalities but clearly identify with one nation. Not only that but there are players that have the opportunity to play for a big club like a Spain or Germany but pick a much smaller side because they love that country. I always find it silly when a player has a tournament for an under 21 Nation and then picks another Nation at full level because they don't see many opportunities.
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| Andy Johnson 24 Jan 17 8.57pm |
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This is the first bit if luck to go our way all season. Let's hope it can be a turning point.
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| oldstand Christchurch 24 Jan 17 8.58pm |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
Because he is currently by far and away the best player that we have, and we are in a dire situation. I can't imagine anybody wishing him to get knocked out if this tournament was held in the off season. As it is we are struggling to book a win and he is playing in a tournament that holds little relevance to the majority of our fan base. And the majority of Africa by the look of the empty seats
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| tonymikejoe UK 24 Jan 17 9.00pm |
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Dire tournament. Always has been. So bad the BBC, who absolutely loved it, eventually had to give up ramming it down our throats.
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| Alex1991 Ashford 24 Jan 17 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by leejaneagles
Fair play and I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to call himself Ivorian or that he doesn't care. I do think though there are a lot of players that technically have dual Nationalities but clearly identify with one nation. Not only that but there are players that have the opportunity to play for a big club like a Spain or Germany but pick a much smaller side because they love that country. I always find it silly when a player has a tournament for an under 21 Nation and then picks another Nation at full level because they don't see many opportunities. Ryan Giggs is a great example. Could have played for England but wanted to play for Wales. I do think Wilf genuinely identifies with his home country/heritage (not sure of the correct term), just like Yala clearly loved playing for D.R Congo. If he had gone and played for Scotland, I'd have been suspicious
"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017. |
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