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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 06 Jul 23 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I would be disappointed if we sign him, the money we save is more important than having Wilf, as long as it is re invested

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jul 23 3.50pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Let's be honest, You're wrong

I think there's two considerations here:

1. Wilf will always be known as a Palace player, a local lad who has been with us (albeit not through choice) throughout one of our most sustained, successful spells ever. He's been an absolutely brilliant player that we've been lucky to keep ahold of for a number of reasons and there is evidence to suggest we were almost solely dependant on him for our PL survival for long periods. Therefore the thought of a Wilf-less Palace, even if not logical, is very daunting for some of us coupled with the very real suggestion we may not/will not be able to replace him. He has been our talisman and figurehead.

2. The logical business case that Wilf is not the player he once was, perhaps more prone to injury now, we have a much better squad and the finances involved are unjustified especially when they could be used elsewhere. Add to that he seems to be holding us to ransom and both actively and publicly looking elsewhere, emotion can turn against him.

I happen to be in the first camp, and feel comfortable justifying it, however I also hold nothing against and understand those in the second and their position.

I suppose we will see how this will all pan out but I do fear the longer it plays out the more detrimental it will become all round.

Edited by Nicholas91 (06 Jul 2023 3.51pm)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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SurbsEagle Flag 06 Jul 23 3.50pm Send a Private Message to SurbsEagle Add SurbsEagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


In answer to your question:
- Arsenal no longer need him now they have both Martinelli and Trossard out wide - both of whom will play for the team by getting the ball in to the penality area, certainly more quickly than Zaha usually does.
- Man U have a certain Marcus Rashford who generally plays out wide on the left. Are you seriously suggesting Zaha would take his place? They also have an exciting young kid called Garnacha who is already terrorising defences and who will only improve. Zaha is not taking his place.
- As for Spurs, whilst Son hasn't had the best of seasons, the best Zaha can expect there is bench time.
- Chelsea? Wait and see what Pochettino does with the existing players Chelsea retain. Zaha would IMO opinion be unlikely to feature in his team.
- Newcastle is the only possibility IMO but given teh way that ASM is being used from the bench these days, I don't see Zaha getting any more starting time than he..

Zaha makes too many poor choices and has been said in other posts, too often loses the ball these days. He also slows the play down when we fans are willing him to pass the ball quickly to players who are in promising positions.

I'm sorry but the Zaha you seem to be promoting was a player at his peak and that is no longer the case. He's been a great player for us but he owes us nothing and neither do we owe him anything.

Time to move on for both parties.

Edited by doombear (06 Jul 2023 3.02pm)

For me, I agree with Arsenal. I did say possibly not Arsenal when I referenced the top 6.
Chelsea would take him in a heartbeat, especially given they are selling Pulisic so are short of options on that side.
Man U - they don't currently have a number 9, so I would assume Rashford will play through the middle. That's also where he has said he wants to play. Garnacho is a prospect but nowhere near Zaha level yet. Wilf would play.
Spurs - Son has had a shocking season, Wilf would have played in front of the Son of 2022/23 season. Who knows if Son will come back.
Newcastle - I don't get the hype with ASM. They don't even want him. I've got Geordie supporting mates who don't rate him because his end product is weak. I personally think Wilf would thrive in that Newcastle team and hugely outshine ASM.

I personally don't agree that Wilf gives the ball away too much, I think that's a cheap assessment of his game. Wilf, along with other flair players, will often try things that others can't. As a result is more likely to lose the ball, but if he gets it right could result in 1 or 3 points for the team. He only has to get it right once, doesn't matter too much how many times he gets it wrong because the team is built to allow for that.

I appreciate people have different opinions, that's football and that's why we love it. For me, Wilf is the greatest player to pull on the red and blue and it would be a real shame to see him leave. Then again, I was sad when Speroni hung the gloves up and that probably happened 4 seasons too late!

Edited by SurbsEagle (06 Jul 2023 3.53pm)

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jul 23 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Apologies, reposted when trying to edit!

Edited by Nicholas91 (06 Jul 2023 3.51pm)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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thechaddyboy Flag Peterborough 06 Jul 23 3.56pm Send a Private Message to thechaddyboy Add thechaddyboy as a friend

No idea if somethings happened or just blind optimism but the Fenerbahçe fans are having a mass party on Twitter at the moment like he's confirmed

 


Red & Blue since 73'

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 06 Jul 23 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Let's be honest, You're wrong

So , Im not alone thinking we are better off without him then .

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 06 Jul 23 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Forget its Wilf, He is a 30 year old, possibly injury prone past his best, free agent, similar to Willian, would any body be happy if we signed him on a 4 year contract, on say 130k a week, everyone would think we had lost the plot, and dont say Zaha is better than Willian, because he wasn't.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 06 Jul 23 4.11pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

So , Im not alone thinking we are better off without him then .

No you are not alone, although I wouldn’t necessarily say better off without him, but possibly better off with £200k per week to spend elsewhere. That is of course as long as it is actually used to improve the team and not to improve the owners holiday funds.

If he goes and the money is not invested in the team then yes we will be a lot worse off.

 

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johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 06 Jul 23 4.15pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

aye

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I think there's two considerations here:

1. Wilf will always be known as a Palace player, a local lad who has been with us (albeit not through choice) throughout one of our most sustained, successful spells ever. He's been an absolutely brilliant player that we've been lucky to keep ahold of for a number of reasons and there is evidence to suggest we were almost solely dependant on him for our PL survival for long periods. Therefore the thought of a Wilf-less Palace, even if not logical, is very daunting for some of us coupled with the very real suggestion we may not/will not be able to replace him. He has been our talisman and figurehead.

2. The logical business case that Wilf is not the player he once was, perhaps more prone to injury now, we have a much better squad and the finances involved are unjustified especially when they could be used elsewhere. Add to that he seems to be holding us to ransom and both actively and publicly looking elsewhere, emotion can turn against him.

I happen to be in the first camp, and feel comfortable justifying it, however I also hold nothing against and understand those in the second and their position.

I suppose we will see how this will all pan out but I do fear the longer it plays out the more detrimental it will become all round.

Edited by Nicholas91 (06 Jul 2023 3.51pm)

 

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 06 Jul 23 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Forget its Wilf, He is a 30 year old, possibly injury prone past his best, free agent, similar to Willian, would any body be happy if we signed him on a 4 year contract, on say 130k a week, everyone would think we had lost the plot, and dont say Zaha is better than Willian, because he wasn't.

In all honesty , i really do think the team as a whole lifted their game when he wasnt playing. They looked relieved and tried to prove a point and they did . Pure madness to give a player lets face it he will be 31 in 4 months a 4 year contract. Dont get me wrong he has been fantastic for us in the past but it just doesnt make good busnisses sense.

 

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PatrickA Flag London 06 Jul 23 4.27pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Unlike others I’m surprised that the top 6 don’t appear to be interested in Zaha and I may have to sadly re-appraise my ability to judge a player from positive to negative.
There’s no transfer fee involved and I don’t think the top 6 would baulk at his wages.

While Zaha may now be on the wane I don’t believe he’ll fall off a cliff and his Premier League record can be scrutinised favourably against the likes of Sancho, Antony, Pulisic, Zyech, Richarlison, Nunes, Trossard and Havertz who have all featured heavily for top 6 clubs.

He’s not a Mane or Salah in terms of his goals, but is versatile and can play anywhere across a front 3, or in a 451 or a 442.
He’s often name checked by Guardiola and Klopp as a threat when we face their respective teams.
I know there are weaknesses in Zaha’s game in relation to areas such as heading and decision making but his strengths more than compensate for these in my view.
I’m not his agent, just a long term fan who has appreciated his huge contribution to the club.

In fact there is a part of me that wished he had joined Man City a few years ago as I believe Pep could have improved him as a player as he has done with so many others.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 06 Jul 23 5.00pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Unlike others I’m surprised that the top 6 don’t appear to be interested in Zaha and I may have to sadly re-appraise my ability to judge a player from positive to negative.
There’s no transfer fee involved and I don’t think the top 6 would baulk at his wages.

While Zaha may now be on the wane I don’t believe he’ll fall off a cliff and his Premier League record can be scrutinised favourably against the likes of Sancho, Antony, Pulisic, Zyech, Richarlison, Nunes, Trossard and Havertz who have all featured heavily for top 6 clubs.

He’s not a Mane or Salah in terms of his goals, but is versatile and can play anywhere across a front 3, or in a 451 or a 442.
He’s often name checked by Guardiola and Klopp as a threat when we face their respective teams.
I know there are weaknesses in Zaha’s game in relation to areas such as heading and decision making but his strengths more than compensate for these in my view.
I’m not his agent, just a long term fan who has appreciated his huge contribution to the club.

In fact there is a part of me that wished he had joined Man City a few years ago as I believe Pep could have improved him as a player as he has done with so many others.

I think you are remembering a Wilf of two years ago, and no fan has not enjoyed and appreciated his contribution, But, as Croydon-Trucker says we are a better team NOW when he dosent play

 


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