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chateauferret Flag 29 Aug 17 11.31am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I'm currently at this minute not Frank's biggest fan (which hopefully will change), but again, that isn't what he said.

He said they lacked courage, and he was talking about showing and wanting the ball and moving into space and players passing into space.

It relies on the whole team understanding and being able and those 3 line ups so far were not, which is a problem and why he should've been a bit more realistic.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Aug 2017 11.28am)

I thought he talked about showing balls, not showing the ball. Some of them already show too much of the ball to the opposition. Balls are those dangly things... well, you know.

 


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samprior Flag Hamburg 29 Aug 17 11.38am Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I'm currently at this minute not Frank's biggest fan (which hopefully will change), but again, that isn't what he said.

He said they lacked courage, and he was talking about showing and wanting the ball and moving into space and players passing into space.

It relies on the whole team understanding and being able and those 3 line ups so far were not, which is a problem and why he should've been a bit more realistic.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Aug 2017 11.28am)

Totally agree. The team selection I listed above should help with that also by removing Puncheon, Ward and Kelly from the lineup... I'm not sure whether it's lack of courage or more lack of quality to follow FdBs plans. Which to me is FdBs biggest fault... Pursuing with a system that the current players are not good enough for. Had he bought in more players maybe it would have been different... But he hasn't (yet) so must adapt not blindly charge on.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Aug 17 11.40am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

I thought he talked about showing balls, not showing the ball. Some of them already show too much of the ball to the opposition. Balls are those dangly things... well, you know.

I got completely what Frank was referring to. It was all too obvious from that Swansea first half and why I think he hooked PVA where we may as well have had a 16 year old returning every pass back to where it came. Sadly that damaged our attacking threat 2nd half.

If I got it then in private talks they would've got what he meant. There was certainly an example shown by Cabaye and Chungy.

I do think more confident possession can happen with 4 at the back.

Mensah. Dann/Tomkins. Sakho. PVA.

Then shielding with Luka.

And passing and football bollox in

Wilf. Cabaye/Jimmy. Cheek. Townsend.

It's when he's trying to impose new sh1t like 3 at the back on ward, Kelly, Hennessey actually and a few others, including puncheon, before being confident in possession that it's likely to fail.

He does have a chance.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Aug 17 11.45am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

Totally agree. The team selection I listed above should help with that also by removing Puncheon, Ward and Kelly from the lineup... I'm not sure whether it's lack of courage or more lack of quality to follow FdBs plans. Which to me is FdBs biggest fault... Pursuing with a system that the current players are not good enough for. Had he bought in more players maybe it would have been different... But he hasn't (yet) so must adapt not blindly charge on.

It's both ability and courage. But when 1-3 or 4 don't have the ability then the chain is broken and the others lack courage or sometimes more accurately, confidence that those lacking ability will mess up and leave them exposed in a few seconds time. Those formations should never have been tried until we had 11 of our best players starting. Then when weaker players come in when needed the holes and inadequacies may not be exposed as much.

Too much too soon in short for below average or lower than that players in the fastest and most of st competitive league in the world over 38 games.

 


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NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 29 Aug 17 12.40pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I got completely what Frank was referring to. It was all too obvious from that Swansea first half and why I think he hooked PVA where we may as well have had a 16 year old returning every pass back to where it came. Sadly that damaged our attacking threat 2nd half.

If I got it then in private talks they would've got what he meant. There was certainly an example shown by Cabaye and Chungy.

I do think more confident possession can happen with 4 at the back.

Mensah. Dann/Tomkins. Sakho. PVA.

Then shielding with Luka.

And passing and football bollox in

Wilf. Cabaye/Jimmy. Cheek. Townsend.

It's when he's trying to impose new sh1t like 3 at the back on ward, Kelly, Hennessey actually and a few others, including puncheon, before being confident in possession that it's likely to fail.

He does have a chance.

It doesn't help that many of them are really static. I think we were one of the 2-3 worst in terms of distance covered per game last year. For a weaker side, that's a disgrace.

Also, the supposed good tactics that people claim FDB has ruined, are the same ones that saw us with a home record of W6 D2 L11 last season, and similarly bad records the previous two seasons.

At home we ranked 18th last season, 18th the season before, and 16th the one before that.

Last year (2016) we went W4 D2 L13 at home. Pathetic.

Under Sam we were W4 D0 L4 at home.

Despite the uptick under Sam, we were still awful at home, and whomever is our manager will have to deal with that. Sam said that was an important stat to fix, because we will always struggle until we get some decent home form.

Edited by NickinOX (29 Aug 2017 12.41pm)

 


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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 29 Aug 17 3.44pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

BREAKING: Crystal Palace have made a €28m offer for Sakho. He’s rejected WBA but Leicester City remain interested. [France Football]
3:32 PM - 29 Aug 2017

 


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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 29 Aug 17 3.57pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Mercato: Mamadou Sakho (Liverpool) courted by Crystal Palace and Leicester
Mamadou Sakho is very close to a departure in Liverpool. Crystal Palace and Leicester City want the charismatic central defender.

Despite the love of the Liverpool fans , Mamadou Sakho is no longer in the plans of Jurgen Klopp . The international had three possibilities in this end of mercato. West Bromwich Albion was one, but it was discarded by the former Parisian.

So there remain two solid tracks: Crystal Palace , where he was loaned last season has just offered 28 million euros to the Reds. But since Monday night, in the final sprint of the transfer window, Leicester City entered the dance and contacted the 27-year-old central defender.
Nabil Djellit

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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 29 Aug 17 4.19pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Originally posted by Seth

BREAKING: Crystal Palace have made a €28m offer for Sakho. He’s rejected WBA but Leicester City remain interested. [France Football]
3:32 PM - 29 Aug 2017

Nice one Seth.hope he signs.

 

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Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 29 Aug 17 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Can't Leicester f-off and have Fonte instead? He's much cheaper

 

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balfmalark Flag 29 Aug 17 4.29pm Send a Private Message to balfmalark Add balfmalark as a friend

Getting there!

 

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Bangell Flag Oxford 29 Aug 17 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by balfmalark

Getting there!

Looking good.

We would have 7 CBs: Sakho, Dann, Tomkins, Riedewald, Delaney, Fosu-Mensah, and Kelly, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one go (probably Dann, Tomkins or Kelly). I can definitely see Fosu-Mensah becoming first-choice RB, like he was in the second half against Swansea, so we'd just need to invest in a couple of attacking players.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Aug 17 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

And a keeper. Now have an image of Hennessey's superman impression through the air thanks to another HOL poster.

 


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