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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 Feb 22 7.51pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Major breaking news RE: Romanski Abramovich apparently

Yeah has handed control of Chelsea to the Chelsea Charitable Trust or some such organisation

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Feb 22 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Yeah has handed control of Chelsea to the Chelsea Charitable Trust or some such organisation

Yup but my paper doesn't say he has "given" it to them. So does that mean he still owns it? Probably, and who sits on this Trust and who do they they report to?

Until I hear further it's like the conman who puts everything in his wife's name.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 22 8.16pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

All the counter factorials are interesting topics but....I'm just in after a three mile walk and I'm already tired after typing what I've typed.

I just don't have your energy levels.

Pussy! I do at least that most days. The dog demands it. My walks are pretty hilly too. The Fens are flat.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Feb 22 8.18pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Pussy! I do at least that most days. The dog demands it. My walks are pretty hilly too. The Fens are flat.

The Fens may be flat but my stomach isn't.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 22 8.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Yup but my paper doesn't say he has "given" it to them. So does that mean he still owns it? Probably, and who sits on this Trust and who do they they report to?

Until I hear further it's like the conman who puts everything in his wife's name.

Exactly. It's just window dressing, which I hope won't be accepted by the government. People like him need to have their assets seized and held in trust until Putin has gone and only returned to him if it can be shown he has helped in his removal.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 22 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The Fens may be flat but my stomach isn't.

That made me smile!

Keep walking and ease up on the drinking, and it will go.

 


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Omph Flag Liverpool 27 Feb 22 9.06am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think this is your perspective, however I just don't think that's going to happen.

I support the Ukrainian resistance and Putin has committed a great if predictable wrong, however I'm going to be calculating rather than emotional and just say what I see happening.

Putin isn't stupid, invading and occupying parts of Ukraine that don't have a sizable Russian population would be foolish....that's the kind of thing the west did in the middle east.

Instead as has been said previously it's more likely that Putin doesn't over extend and that he clears out resistance within borders that he creates. We will support and should support what is defendable, which won't be East Ukraine....there we have to plead for reason not show trials.

Over the next two weeks he takes East Ukraine and installs a Russian friendly puppet, the west continues reinforcing Nato borders and continues with its combination of hurt hippy language and seemingly aggressive statements that have no actual committal meat to them....essentially we have Cold War 2.

The west uses sanctions but once fighting stops looks to normalise relations due to gas and food prices hurting us just as much as Russia....well more in fact as they have significant reserves and where there is demand for their resources there is supply.

Essentially Putin saw the weakness while the west deluded itself.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2022 3.08pm)

Any evidence for this?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Feb 22 9.14am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Yup but my paper doesn't say he has "given" it to them. So does that mean he still owns it? Probably, and who sits on this Trust and who do they they report to?

Until I hear further it's like the conman who puts everything in his wife's name.

Yes he does still own them. The chairman of the Trust is none other than Bruce Buck who is also Chairman of Chelsea FC.
This just smacks of RA making sure his assets in Chelsea are not frozen, I am assuming you cannot freeze Charity assents.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Feb 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes he does still own them. The chairman of the Trust is none other than Bruce Buck who is also Chairman of Chelsea FC.
This just smacks of RA making sure his assets in Chelsea are not frozen, I am assuming you cannot freeze Charity assents.

I think they can. Like my analogy if you can prove to a court that the conman has shifted his assets to his wife (Tommy Robinson?) to avoid payment the court will seize them.

So I think this is about political will. Priti Patel will introduce a new emergency law this week on seizing assets so if the government want to do it they will, RA will no doubt contest it in court.

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 27 Feb 22 10.22am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Omph

Any evidence for this?

The current euphemism used is irrational. Perhaps not stupid but distant from common sense.

Stirlingsays reckons it's a slam dunk. It won't be. The puppet state cannot possibly survive without a sitting army as the ongoing western fed resistance will make it impossible. Thus...

This side stepping of sanctions to avoid any politically damaging backlash such as prices at the pumps or hurt to the financial market will make us look weak when Russians inevitably upgrade the attack on civilians resulting in the bombing of an orphanage or they revert to chemical weapons etc. Sanctions will be intense and putin will be looking for a face saving out.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 27 Feb 22 11.19am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

The current euphemism used is irrational. Perhaps not stupid but distant from common sense.

Stirlingsays reckons it's a slam dunk. It won't be. The puppet state cannot possibly survive without a sitting army as the ongoing western fed resistance will make it impossible. Thus...

This side stepping of sanctions to avoid any politically damaging backlash such as prices at the pumps or hurt to the financial market will make us look weak when Russians inevitably upgrade the attack on civilians resulting in the bombing of an orphanage or they revert to chemical weapons etc. Sanctions will be intense and putin will be looking for a face saving out.

Sanctions and no fly zones will stymy virtually all movement though.

 

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kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 27 Feb 22 12.56pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

The Germans are really ramping up their position against Putin. The Swift expulsion will soon be in place. Ukrainian resistance continues and now the International Court.
Putin is being forced into a corner. He will never have anticipated all of this.

 


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