I agree more with Simon Jordan's take on this than Chris Sutton's. Who'd want to manage in the backwater that is Scottish Football, where you get to play loads of non-descript teams and have only one serious opponent in Rangers. Even when they qualify for the Champions League they're only in it for the first group stage, such is the gulf between Scottish Football and the rest of Europe.Howe would be mad to go up there.

I feel sure Parrish would give Howe the job, I keep seeing Dyche has having a very similar profile to Pulis and Allardyce before they came here (Sam was only at Sunderland before the England job), and also I could see Dyche far more likely to do likewise and run away from Parrish, Howe would be more compliant.

Or he fails with us, gets relegated twice in 2 seasons and ends up at.....Rotherham or Dundee. Celtic are a bigger club and if you look at Rogers or Gerrard, you can significantly increase your stock. He clearly does not he fancy himself at winning the league as he would jump at the chance

I agree that success will increase his stock, I just think that if you end up coming 2nd to Rangers, he would be deemed a failure. If he fails at Palace he’s more likely to get another premier league job. Pardew and Marco Silva spring to mind.

A tale of 2 mouths to be honest. Jordan and Sutton both enjoy mouthing off. The only doors that Jordan has a pop at Celtic/Scottish football while Sutton has a pop at Palace/ lack of ambition.

I think Howe will go to Celtic if they agree to him taking his own staff. Whoever goes there next season will get publicity because Gerrard is now top dog and Celtic are in all sorts of trouble after Lennon wrecked Rodger’s squad. Rangers aren’t that good. They won by bringing in young players Gerrard knew from coaching at Liverpool who weren’t going to go straight into their first team. Rodgers did something similar when Celtic linked up with Citee. A decent coach could turn things round and win the league next season.

The Palace job is a risky option for someone like Howe. He is unlikely to finish higher than Hodgson without spending cash and that ain’t going to happen. Success would be bringing youngsters in to replace the older/ out of contract players while maintaining Premier League status. That might attract someone who’s never managed in the PL but won’t get the likes of Howe I to the big time. The risk of failure and relegation is high and Howe doesn’t need another trip to the Championship.

We need a young coach to bring on the youngsters, preferably one with links to a bigger team to bring in some of their kids. That has to be Lampard.

It is Dyche or Hodgson for me. We either go all out and back Dyche, securing him now when we need to overhaul the team, or we continue to have these conversations for another 12 months with Roy at the helm. Which I feel would be detrimental.

There is a huge risk factor when it comes to changing and despite pundits falling over themselves to whip up a frenzy in the transfer market (the usual Kane to Citeh / Haaland to Prem etc / plus relegated manager merry-go-round), I don't see much transfer action happening in this window. It worries me that we will stay with Roy because of the cost of securing a new manager with a loss of 54M (?). So I'd like Dyche.

Hodgson - Better Prem record than those we're linked to
Dyche - Slightly better record than Howe (IMHO)
Howe - Not going to take us forward (so will Dyche for that matter?)
Lampard - Too risky
Gerard - too risky - why should we be a testing ground for another clubs future heros
Potter - only if he brings his current midfield with him
Cooper - too risky
Ismail - too risky - don't get sentimental for 9 months / and no-one is going to want him as a number 2 if he is simply being groomed to take over in a couple of years.*
Paulo Fonseca - I genuinely can't see this as I think it would take money to convince him.

So I'd like Dyche now before he sees how well we balls up the negotiation of new transfers with our ageing squad or pish RH around further.

*Hodgson grooming Ismail? Maybe I'd take that, but still to risky.

Edited by pstrutt (15 Apr 2021 11.42am)

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