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Lombardinho London 17 Feb 21 9.29am
A late twist at The Super Bowl [Link]
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London 17 Feb 21 9.29am

A late twist at The Super Bowl

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Eaglecoops CR3 17 Feb 21 9.32am
Originally posted by Lombardinho A late twist at The Super Bowl [Link] Haha, very good.
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Originally posted by Lombardinho

A late twist at The Super Bowl

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Haha, very good.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 21 9.35am
Originally posted by Lombardinho The dumb attempt at impeachment and what happened on Jan 6th are both obscuring the real issue of election fraud. You must realise, Wisbech, that those shenanigans from November 3rd, 4th, 5th and beyond are sooner or later going to see the light of day. You keep on believing this if it makes you happy. I will only when any actual evidence is presented to a Court and accepted as admissable by a Judge. I am not holding my breath in anticipation. In the meantime I suggest we deal with reality and not fairy tales or conspiracy theories designed to wind up the easily impressionable. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 21 9.35am

Originally posted by Lombardinho

The dumb attempt at impeachment and what happened on Jan 6th are both obscuring the real issue of election fraud.
You must realise, Wisbech, that those shenanigans from November 3rd, 4th, 5th and beyond are sooner or later going to see the light of day.

You keep on believing this if it makes you happy.

I will only when any actual evidence is presented to a Court and accepted as admissable by a Judge.

I am not holding my breath in anticipation. In the meantime I suggest we deal with reality and not fairy tales or conspiracy theories designed to wind up the easily impressionable.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 21 9.45am
Originally posted by Spiderman Trump, the only leader in history to lie to the electorate, who’d have thought it Lying, or more often not telling the whole truth or being selective in what you say to suit an agenda, has always been a political reality. That much is true. Sometimes it's wise if to reveal what you know will cause more harm than good. Even if that is a difficult judgement call and one that can rebound. Defending doing so is difficult morally. We all tell white lies sometimes. Trump is on a whole different level. He lies every time he says anything. He says whatever he thinks will benefit him and then firmly believes it to be true. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 21 9.45am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Trump, the only leader in history to lie to the electorate, who’d have thought it

Lying, or more often not telling the whole truth or being selective in what you say to suit an agenda, has always been a political reality. That much is true.

Sometimes it's wise if to reveal what you know will cause more harm than good. Even if that is a difficult judgement call and one that can rebound. Defending doing so is difficult morally. We all tell white lies sometimes.

Trump is on a whole different level. He lies every time he says anything. He says whatever he thinks will benefit him and then firmly believes it to be true.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 21 9.58am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops On this basis, why wasn’t the President impeached when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq? You would need to know all the facts on who knew what and when before deciding that. It seems this was an intelligence failure rather than a political one. If Bush had been told that Iraq possessed such weapons, or that it was not co-operating sufficiently to verify they didn't, then whilst the smell of political opportunism was strong a case of plausible deniability existed. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 21 9.58am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

On this basis, why wasn’t the President impeached when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq?

You would need to know all the facts on who knew what and when before deciding that. It seems this was an intelligence failure rather than a political one. If Bush had been told that Iraq possessed such weapons, or that it was not co-operating sufficiently to verify they didn't, then whilst the smell of political opportunism was strong a case of plausible deniability existed.

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Feb 21 10.54am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You would need to know all the facts on who knew what and when before deciding that. It seems this was an intelligence failure rather than a political one. If Bush had been told that Iraq possessed such weapons, or that it was not co-operating sufficiently to verify they didn't, then whilst the smell of political opportunism was strong a case of plausible deniability existed. IMO this is nonsense. Both Blair and Bush lied for their own means Edited by Spiderman (17 Feb 2021 10.57am)
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Horsham 17 Feb 21 10.54am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

IMO this is nonsense. Both Blair and Bush lied for their own means

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Spiderman Horsham 17 Feb 21 10.55am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Lying, or more often not telling the whole truth or being selective in what you say to suit an agenda, has always been a political reality. That much is true. Sometimes it's wise if to reveal what you know will cause more harm than good. Even if that is a difficult judgement call and one that can rebound. Defending doing so is difficult morally. We all tell white lies sometimes. Trump is on a whole different level. He lies every time he says anything. He says whatever he thinks will benefit him and then firmly believes it to be true. As a matter of interest have you got proof Trump lies every time he opens his mouth or is that just an opinion?
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Horsham 17 Feb 21 10.55am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Lying, or more often not telling the whole truth or being selective in what you say to suit an agenda, has always been a political reality. That much is true.

Trump is on a whole different level. He lies every time he says anything. He says whatever he thinks will benefit him and then firmly believes it to be true.

As a matter of interest have you got proof Trump lies every time he opens his mouth or is that just an opinion?

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Feb 21 10.55am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle He has not been accused of making anyone do anything. People must rightly be held accountable for their own actions. What he was accused of doing was inciting them to believe things that were factually untrue, in a way that was inappropriate for a President, and thus a "high crime or misdemeanour". Not just on Jan 6th but in the months prior to and after the election. What they did as a consequence of that incitement is for them to answer. What that though has to do with the comment that you responded to beats me. ANTIFA and BLM have caused people to riot loot and murder using statements that aren't true. They have been encouraged by Democrat politicians and the majority Leftist media. Donald Trump lies like all politicians lie. You want his lies to seem more unacceptable than everyone else's because it suits your agenda. You want to excuse away weeks of rioting, looting and murder caused by Marxist Black power organisations and yet expect us to cry outrage because a very significant group of angry people demonstrated because they have had enough of the media control of information and the manipulation of their democracy with the Mexican migrant now deciding who is President. Then the scumbags try to impeach Trump a second time purely to get him out of politics. That tells you the kind of people we are dealing with.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He has not been accused of making anyone do anything. People must rightly be held accountable for their own actions.

What he was accused of doing was inciting them to believe things that were factually untrue, in a way that was inappropriate for a President, and thus a "high crime or misdemeanour". Not just on Jan 6th but in the months prior to and after the election.

What they did as a consequence of that incitement is for them to answer.

What that though has to do with the comment that you responded to beats me.

ANTIFA and BLM have caused people to riot loot and murder using statements that aren't true. They have been encouraged by Democrat politicians and the majority Leftist media.

Donald Trump lies like all politicians lie. You want his lies to seem more unacceptable than everyone else's because it suits your agenda.
You want to excuse away weeks of rioting, looting and murder caused by Marxist Black power organisations and yet expect us to cry outrage because a very significant group of angry people demonstrated because they have had enough of the media control of information and the manipulation of their democracy with the Mexican migrant now deciding who is President.

Then the scumbags try to impeach Trump a second time purely to get him out of politics. That tells you the kind of people we are dealing with.

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Feb 21 11.10am
If the investigating commission is truly independent then I suspect the Democrats are in for an embarrassing time. Congress is responsible for its own policing and security. The chief of police has fallen on his sword but the political responsibility lies with a committee led by the Democrats. Did the Chief ask for extra resources? Did the Democrats deny him this if so why? Did they want the riot to happen to blame Trump. Let's hope that it truly is an independent inquiry. One more point
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Beckenham 17 Feb 21 11.10am

If the investigating commission is truly independent then I suspect the Democrats are in for an embarrassing time. Congress is responsible for its own policing and security.

The chief of police has fallen on his sword but the political responsibility lies with a committee led by the Democrats. Did the Chief ask for extra resources? Did the Democrats deny him this if so why? Did they want the riot to happen to blame Trump.

Let's hope that it truly is an independent inquiry.

One more point

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 21 11.32am
Originally posted by Badger11 If the investigating commission is truly independent then I suspect the Democrats are in for an embarrassing time. Congress is responsible for its own policing and security. The chief of police has fallen on his sword but the political responsibility lies with a committee led by the Democrats. Did the Chief ask for extra resources? Did the Democrats deny him this if so why? Did they want the riot to happen to blame Trump. Let's hope that it truly is an independent inquiry. Whitewash and Trump's fault spring to mind. No point to this whatsoever. Trial by media started four years ago and still isn't over. It's not helping except to serve as an example to not try to go against our new great leaders. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Feb 21 11.32am

Originally posted by Badger11

If the investigating commission is truly independent then I suspect the Democrats are in for an embarrassing time. Congress is responsible for its own policing and security.

Let's hope that it truly is an independent inquiry.

Whitewash and Trump's fault spring to mind. No point to this whatsoever. Trial by media started four years ago and still isn't over. It's not helping except to serve as an example to not try to go against our new great leaders.

Red and Blue Army!

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Stirlingsays 17 Feb 21 11.58am
I have inserted an image of what happens when 'progressives' get power and of what you can expect as demographics continue to change. A New York college school has just sent white parents materials asking them to identify their 'whiteness'....from 'white supremacist' in red to 'white abolitionist' in green. These materials come from a curriculum written by Barnor Hesse, a associate professor of African American studies, political science and sociology at North Western university. He wants to teach and build an ethnology of 'whiteness' and he wants white parents to identity themselves on his described spectrum. As you read it don't forget the left were the people calling Trump and his base Nazis and yet they fully embrace the 'white privilege'' and 'white supremacy' that feeds this crap. Never forget the people who support the left because they are fully aware that anti white politics is ingrained within progressivism. Also never forget those that gave guys like this their jobs and never accept their excuses. For those interested in further exploring this sickness and the future to come that's been designed for you by useful idiots and others....I'll link you to a further description of the levels found in the image by their author. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2021 12.12pm) Attachment: knowyourwhitey.JPG (87.76Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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17 Feb 21 11.58am

I have inserted an image of what happens when 'progressives' get power and of what you can expect as demographics continue to change.

A New York college school has just sent white parents materials asking them to identify their 'whiteness'....from 'white supremacist' in red to 'white abolitionist' in green.

These materials come from a curriculum written by Barnor Hesse, a associate professor of African American studies, political science and sociology at North Western university.

He wants to teach and build an ethnology of 'whiteness' and he wants white parents to identity themselves on his described spectrum.

As you read it don't forget the left were the people calling Trump and his base Nazis and yet they fully embrace the 'white privilege'' and 'white supremacy' that feeds this crap.

Never forget the people who support the left because they are fully aware that anti white politics is ingrained within progressivism. Also never forget those that gave guys like this their jobs and never accept their excuses.

For those interested in further exploring this sickness and the future to come that's been designed for you by useful idiots and others....I'll link you to a further description of the levels found in the image by their author.

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