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 Petereagle  Brockley 29 Aug 17 10.27am |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Can we all just calm down a bit with the Sakho bid...he's NOT THE MESSIAH (nor is he just a naughty boy). Don't expect him to be the answer to all the issues we currently face. Also, is he actually fully fit at the moment? Lets be realistic. If he comes he'll be a welcome addition, one that will HELP, not cure the current squads woes, we still need a Keeper and and a Striker. Also should Townsend go to make the Sakho deal easier on the club then we'll need another winger! Quite right. There's also the thorny issue of coaching style and whether FdB is really a good fit for Palace (answer: no?!) But having said all that, Sakho will make us a great deal more secure at the back and he is by all accounts a leader on the filed and off the field. Sammy Lee knows how to get the best out of him. AS BFS used to say: you start by not losing football matches.
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| The Dolphin 29 Aug 17 10.27am |
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HE is a bloody good player though.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 29 Aug 17 10.30am |
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Originally posted by Petereagle
Quite right. There's also the thorny issue of coaching style and whether FdB is really a good fit for Palace (answer: no?!) But having said all that, Sakho will make us a great deal more secure at the back and he is by all accounts a leader on the filed and off the field. Sammy Lee knows how to get the best out of him. AS BFS used to say: you start by not losing football matches.
He has a mistake in him as he attacks the ball and in the past has relied on Lovren and Tomkins/Dann to be there to pick up any loose balls. In a back 3 if he were to adopt this approach then if he missed the challenge it'd leave the player clear in on goal..
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| Medway Eagle Whitstable Kent 29 Aug 17 10.32am |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Can we all just calm down a bit with the Sakho bid...he's NOT THE MESSIAH (nor is he just a naughty boy). Don't expect him to be the answer to all the issues we currently face. Also, is he actually fully fit at the moment? Lets be realistic. If he comes he'll be a welcome addition, one that will HELP, not cure the current squads woes, we still need a Keeper and and a Striker. Also should Townsend go to make the Sakho deal easier on the club then we'll need another winger! Sakho may not be the messiah But no getting away from the fact that until he joined our defending was dire, And he steadied the ship and was and will be a massive influence on the team and in the dressing room, The guy want's to come to Palace, Its reported that he agreed personal terms before he left for the summer break, If he does not come here it will be a travesty, with one person responsible for him not coming here, And I think we ll know who I am referring too
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| Baldfella Wigan 29 Aug 17 10.39am |
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He isn't the messiah but currently he remains Liverpool's best centre back! Not my words but the words of season ticket holders at Anfield who don't get why he hasn't been given a second chance when they don't seem to be able to close off a deal for a player at potentially £75m! He made Tomkins look a better player and I think he'll work well with Fosu-Mensah. If Liverpool are looking to spend around £150m in the next couple of days on VVD and Lemar I'd have thought FFP would dictate they need to sell him to us to balance the books!
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chateauferret  29 Aug 17 10.42am |
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Originally posted by Medway Eagle
Sakho may not be the messiah But no getting away from the fact that until he joined our defending was dire, And he steadied the ship and was and will be a massive influence on the team and in the dressing room, The guy want's to come to Palace, Its reported that he agreed personal terms before he left for the summer break, If he does not come here it will be a travesty, with one person responsible for him not coming here, And I think we ll know who I am referring too Another one who thinks he knows what's going on in the Palace boardroom. It strikes me as quite possible that de Boer didn't rate or want Sakho and that one of the points made in yesterday's bollocking was that he was going to play him or else. It's also possible that Sakho had to be persuaded to put up with de Boer. It's possible that raising the money was contingent on some sale, e.g. Townsend. And so on and so on. There are 101 ways to bugger up a proposed transfer.
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| chris123 hove actually 29 Aug 17 10.47am |
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Originally posted by Medway Eagle
Sakho may not be the messiah But no getting away from the fact that until he joined our defending was dire, And he steadied the ship and was and will be a massive influence on the team and in the dressing room, The guy want's to come to Palace, Its reported that he agreed personal terms before he left for the summer break, If he does not come here it will be a travesty, with one person responsible for him not coming here, And I think we ll know who I am referring too He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy.
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 29 Aug 17 11.00am |
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Originally posted by chris123
He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy. In Crystal Palace footballing terms he is pretty close to Messiah status.
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| samprior Hamburg 29 Aug 17 11.10am |
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With Sakho in the squad we'd look a hell of a lot stronger and we'd also have a leader... Something we've been massively lacking. With FdB's crisis meeting I also expect we'll be seeing a lot more of a solid 451 (if he continues with 3 at the back against Burnley he's gonna make things difficult for himself). Here's what our options would then be in a 451 which I don't think is regressing as we'll have better players playing it. Hennessy Fosu-Mensah(Ward) Dann(Tomkins) Sakho (Riedewald) PVA (Schlupp) Milivojevic (Riedewald) Zaha Loftus-Cheek (Puncheon) Cabaye (MacArthur) Townsend Benteke It does highlight our real weakness in secondary attacking options though.
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 29 Aug 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by samprior
With Sakho in the squad we'd look a hell of a lot stronger and we'd also have a leader... Something we've been massively lacking. With FdB's crisis meeting I also expect we'll be seeing a lot more of a solid 451 (if he continues with 3 at the back against Burnley he's gonna make things difficult for himself). Here's what our options would then be in a 451 which I don't think is regressing as we'll have better players playing it. Hennessy Fosu-Mensah(Ward) Dann(Tomkins) Sakho (Riedewald) PVA (Schlupp) Milivojevic (Riedewald) Zaha Loftus-Cheek (Puncheon) Cabaye (MacArthur) Townsend Benteke It does highlight our real weakness in secondary attacking options though. If this transfer does get over the line in the next few days I'd like to see him installed as captain straight away, revert to the formation used under Sam as all of the players are still here, with some useful loanees.
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| Medway Eagle Whitstable Kent 29 Aug 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by samprior
With Sakho in the squad we'd look a hell of a lot stronger and we'd also have a leader... Something we've been massively lacking. With FdB's crisis meeting I also expect we'll be seeing a lot more of a solid 451 (if he continues with 3 at the back against Burnley he's gonna make things difficult for himself). Here's what our options would then be in a 451 which I don't think is regressing as we'll have better players playing it. Hennessy Fosu-Mensah(Ward) Dann(Tomkins) Sakho (Riedewald) PVA (Schlupp) Milivojevic (Riedewald) Zaha Loftus-Cheek (Puncheon) Cabaye (MacArthur) Townsend Benteke It does highlight our real weakness in secondary attacking options though. Thats a good call, But i am not sure if Frank can inspire the team, He seems a very dour personality and has already accused them publicly of being cowardly, Not the best way to get the dressing room rocking
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Aug 17 11.27am |
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Originally posted by Medway Eagle
Thats a good call, But i am not sure if Frank can inspire the team, He seems a very dour personality and has already accused them publicly of being cowardly, Not the best way to get the dressing room rocking I'm currently at this minute not Frank's biggest fan (which hopefully will change), but again, that isn't what he said. He said they lacked courage, and he was talking about showing and wanting the ball and moving into space and players passing into space. It relies on the whole team understanding and being able and those 3 line ups so far were not, which is a problem and why he should've been a bit more realistic. Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Aug 2017 11.28am)
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