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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Feb 24 11.05am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Facts?

There have always been problems of one sort or another to overcome. If every child was being raped, you could not leave home, every pub was now a mosque and every monument plastered with messages, you would have a point.

You don’t. You are scaremongering. There are problems in some places which need to be dealt with. So help deal with them rather than pontificate about them.

Entirely incorrect. It would be too late then. Like treating cancer when you're already dead. What people would like to do is not get to that stage - prevention as it were.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 24 11.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Entirely incorrect. It would be too late then. Like treating cancer when you're already dead. What people would like to do is not get to that stage - prevention as it were.

You must have missed the bit where I said that the problems in some places need to be dealt with.

If you have a cancer in your prostate, like I did, you don’t cut off your arms and legs to treat it. You target the problem area to stop metastasis.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Feb 24 11.43am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What the government and the opposition do is run scared of the immigrant vote.
This is the result, predicted by many, of mass immigration.
It has an effect on our politics, even when the migrant population is still a relatively small proportion of the total number. It means that a minority can have sway over the interests of the majority.
America has had these problems for decades, so it should come as no surprise to anyone.

This country has changed for the worse in recent decades to the point where it is barely recognisable. Our focus is now continuously on race and religious issues. Our streets are occupied by immigrant gangs and the religion that was the basis for our cultural and moral blueprint is dying while imported medieval dogma is on the rise. Secularism and personal freedoms and choices are at risk from radicals.

How can a man of your age say that these are not serious problems or deny the stark reality of this decline?

You really spout some garbage on occasions.

No one is scared of “the immigrant vote”! There isn’t one. Those immigrants who are entitled to vote because of naturalisation don’t form one homogeneous community. I see no evidence at all of any party targeting immigrants as a whole. In some constituencies there may be larger groups but that’s nothing really new.

It might be that you, and your little group of xenophobic mates, focus on race and religious issues but it isn’t true for most people. Most are far more concerned with those things they always have been concerned about. Family, health and economic matters being top of their lists.

You are obsessed with scaremongering.

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Feb 24 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You really spout some garbage on occasions.

No one is scared of “the immigrant vote”! There isn’t one. Those immigrants who are entitled to vote because of naturalisation don’t form one homogeneous community. I see no evidence at all of any party targeting immigrants as a whole. In some constituencies there may be larger groups but that’s nothing really new.

It might be that you, and your little group of xenophobic mates, focus on race and religious issues but it isn’t true for most people. Most are far more concerned with those things they always have been concerned about. Family, health and economic matters being top of their lists.

You are obsessed with scaremongering.

You really do live in a fairy-tale, don't you?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Feb 24 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You really spout some garbage on occasions.

No one is scared of “the immigrant vote”! There isn’t one. Those immigrants who are entitled to vote because of naturalisation don’t form one homogeneous community. I see no evidence at all of any party targeting immigrants as a whole. In some constituencies there may be larger groups but that’s nothing really new.

It might be that you, and your little group of xenophobic mates, focus on race and religious issues but it isn’t true for most people. Most are far more concerned with those things they always have been concerned about. Family, health and economic matters being top of their lists.

You are obsessed with scaremongering.


So there is no immigrant vote? No doubt you are suggesting that most immigrants make up their own minds on politics and not as some homogeneous lump.

I'm sure they do have their own minds, and what they decide will be based on self-interest for the most part. It's interesting however that they don't seem to have the same colour blindness that Whitey is encouraged to have when at the voting booth. I expect their Imams, or insert appropriate religious leaders, are always available to help them have their own minds when the time comes to vote.

I know you must see the news since you use the internet on a daily basis, so I'm finding it rather odd that you have missed the constant flow of race and religion themed news that we are now exposed to every day.
Family, health and economic matters are all affected by immigration.
Perhaps you haven't figured that out yet?

 

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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 26 Feb 24 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


So there is no immigrant vote? No doubt you are suggesting that most immigrants make up their own minds on politics and not as some homogeneous lump.

I'm sure they do have their own minds, and what they decide will be based on self-interest for the most part. It's interesting however that they don't seem to have the same colour blindness that Whitey is encouraged to have when at the voting booth. I expect their Imams, or insert appropriate religious leaders, are always available to help them have their own minds when the time comes to vote.

I know you must see the news since you use the internet on a daily basis, so I'm finding it rather odd that you have missed the constant flow of race and religion themed news that we are now exposed to every day.
Family, health and economic matters are all affected by immigration.
Perhaps you haven't figured that out yet?

You'll have to excuse Wisbech, the chemicals used to mine tin have obviously leached into the water supply in Cornwall...

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 8.46am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

You really do live in a fairy-tale, don't you?

Nope. I live in Cornwall which is, surprisingly to many who post here, more typical of most places in the UK, than, say, Norwood.

Living in a dystopian fairy tale is exactly where I see that group residing. Doors firmly shut to the world beyond the grey walls of London, eyes fixed on screens and minds locked into an imaginary past of untainted goodness and a future of unrelenting evil.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 9.01am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


So there is no immigrant vote? No doubt you are suggesting that most immigrants make up their own minds on politics and not as some homogeneous lump.

I'm sure they do have their own minds, and what they decide will be based on self-interest for the most part. It's interesting however that they don't seem to have the same colour blindness that Whitey is encouraged to have when at the voting booth. I expect their Imams, or insert appropriate religious leaders, are always available to help them have their own minds when the time comes to vote.

I know you must see the news since you use the internet on a daily basis, so I'm finding it rather odd that you have missed the constant flow of race and religion themed news that we are now exposed to every day.
Family, health and economic matters are all affected by immigration.
Perhaps you haven't figured that out yet?

No, there is no immigrant vote. There are immigrants who vote and like everyone else they will have their own reasons for deciding whether they will and if they do, how. Some may well be guided by religious leaders but it’s hardly a big issue. People have been guided by their group leaders since time began. Many here are doubtless guided by the Mail, others by GB News.

Only those who have acquired citizenship can vote. Those here on work or student visas cannot. Which removes a hefty chunk of those you get so agitated about.

Of course as our numbers increase the resources we need need to increase too. That would be true however they increase. So long as we increase the numbers to match the need, in a managed way, then there’s no problem. When we have found ways to manage without bringing people here then we can reduce our reliance on immigration but that’s a big task which needs a lot of investment and time to bear fruit.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Feb 24 9.09am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, there is no immigrant vote. There are immigrants who vote and like everyone else they will have their own reasons for deciding whether they will and if they do, how. Some may well be guided by religious leaders but it’s hardly a big issue. People have been guided by their group leaders since time began. Many here are doubtless guided by the Mail, others by GB News.

Only those who have acquired citizenship can vote. Those here on work or student visas cannot. Which removes a hefty chunk of those you get so agitated about.

Of course as our numbers increase the resources we need need to increase too. That would be true however they increase. So long as we increase the numbers to match the need, in a managed way, then there’s no problem. When we have found ways to manage without bringing people here then we can reduce our reliance on immigration but that’s a big task which needs a lot of investment and time to bear fruit.

A large proportion of people we have imported never get anywhere near a job that needed filling.
A lot of them work in fast food are self employed or don't work at all. We never needed any of these people.

Migrants are costing the economy money, not improving it.

Look around you man.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Feb 2024 9.10am)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Feb 24 9.10am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, there is no immigrant vote. There are immigrants who vote and like everyone else they will have their own reasons for deciding whether they will and if they do, how. Some may well be guided by religious leaders but it’s hardly a big issue. People have been guided by their group leaders since time began. Many here are doubtless guided by the Mail, others by GB News.

Only those who have acquired citizenship can vote. Those here on work or student visas cannot. Which removes a hefty chunk of those you get so agitated about.

Of course as our numbers increase the resources we need need to increase too. That would be true however they increase. So long as we increase the numbers to match the need, in a managed way, then there’s no problem. When we have found ways to manage without bringing people here then we can reduce our reliance on immigration but that’s a big task which needs a lot of investment and time to bear fruit.

Not actually correct. Non citizens can vote in local government elections.

 


One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Feb 24 9.39am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I have searched the IFS website to find the evidence for the claims made above. Claims which are being circulated in other right wing media outlets too.

I cannot find it, it seems someone has extracted some data from a genuine IFS report, extrapolated one item without its context and produced a headline to satisfy a particular readership.

Why would anyone want to do that?

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This seems to come from section 5. of the “key findings” in the above. If it can be found elsewhere I stand to be corrected.

 


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