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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Feb 21 7.34pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So all the rioters and looters all turned up by coincidence? Here's a tip. Keep off the mushrooms. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Feb 2021 6.50pm) Here's an answer. You manage to turn up here with views that don't match mine or all of the other contributors. We are though both members of the Hol and that's just about the only thing we share except that we support Palace. Groups have factions within them. They don't all think the same, as is obvious here. People communicate. It's not rocket science. Sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly by offering supportive words and actions. Conclusion? You don't need a central organising structure for factions to pursue their own course of action. It just happens.
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Teddy Eagle  16 Feb 21 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It is serious and it wasn't just "wheeled out" for no good reason. Ensuring Trump becomes history asap has to be a serious political objective shared by the leadership on both sides of the aisle in the USA. You are witnessing that in real-time with McConnell. They want him gone. It is my belief that there was probably a stage managed script for the events of the past week written by the leaders of both parties. Get the videos on the record, find him not guilty and then resume the important work on the pandemic. Yes. I know. I’m talking about the future if impeachment becomes a go-to event.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Feb 21 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes. I know. I’m talking about the future if impeachment becomes a go-to event. Unless a future President behaves in as poor a way as Trump did they ought to have nothing to fear. The electorate as a whole is not going to be impressed by trivial impeachments staged just for political theatre and should that be attempted they risk a negative response. I don't think either party wants that. The danger is if the GOP doesn't manage to repel the thrust of Trump's base and his attempted takeover. Then anything is possible as the conventional rulebook would be torn up.
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| Teddy Eagle 16 Feb 21 9.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Unless a future President behaves in as poor a way as Trump did they ought to have nothing to fear. The electorate as a whole is not going to be impressed by trivial impeachments staged just for political theatre and should that be attempted they risk a negative response. I don't think either party wants that. The danger is if the GOP doesn't manage to repel the thrust of Trump's base and his attempted takeover. Then anything is possible as the conventional rulebook would be torn up. We’ll see. There have been 45 Presidents, 1 of the first 40 was impeached and 2 of the last 5 have been.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Feb 21 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Here's an answer. You manage to turn up here with views that don't match mine or all of the other contributors. We are though both members of the Hol and that's just about the only thing we share except that we support Palace. Groups have factions within them. They don't all think the same, as is obvious here. People communicate. It's not rocket science. Sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly by offering supportive words and actions. Conclusion? You don't need a central organising structure for factions to pursue their own course of action. It just happens. But Donald Trump made all those people riot in Washington? Of course. I should have guessed. Different rules apply when it suits your agenda.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Feb 21 10.49pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
We’ll see. There have been 45 Presidents, 1 of the first 40 was impeached and 2 of the last 5 have been. We will indeed see. Clinton's was the questionable one in my opinion. Trump was an outlier to beat all others so what has happened with him cannot be seen as a part of a pattern. Unless it becomes fashionable to choose Presidents on their capacity to be successful reality TV personalities. Heaven help us all if that becomes the case but I very much doubt anyone anywhere is going to want to repeat that experience anytime soon.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Feb 21 10.56pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But Donald Trump made all those people riot in Washington? Of course. I should have guessed. Different rules apply when it suits your agenda. He has not been accused of making anyone do anything. People must rightly be held accountable for their own actions. What he was accused of doing was inciting them to believe things that were factually untrue, in a way that was inappropriate for a President, and thus a "high crime or misdemeanour". Not just on Jan 6th but in the months prior to and after the election. What they did as a consequence of that incitement is for them to answer. What that though has to do with the comment that you responded to beats me.
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| Lombardinho London 16 Feb 21 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He has not been accused of making anyone do anything. People must rightly be held accountable for their own actions. What he was accused of doing was inciting them to believe things that were factually untrue, in a way that was inappropriate for a President, and thus a "high crime or misdemeanour". Not just on Jan 6th but in the months prior to and after the election. What they did as a consequence of that incitement is for them to answer. What that though has to do with the comment that you responded to beats me. The dumb attempt at impeachment and what happened on Jan 6th are both obscuring the real issue of election fraud.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 16 Feb 21 11.45pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
The dumb attempt at impeachment and what happened on Jan 6th are both obscuring the real issue of election fraud. The 19th? March 4th? 2030? Setting new dates is easy isn’t it. Infinite supply
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| Spiderman Horsham 17 Feb 21 8.03am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He has not been accused of making anyone do anything. People must rightly be held accountable for their own actions. What he was accused of doing was inciting them to believe things that were factually untrue, in a way that was inappropriate for a President, and thus a "high crime or misdemeanour". Not just on Jan 6th but in the months prior to and after the election. What they did as a consequence of that incitement is for them to answer. What that though has to do with the comment that you responded to beats me. Trump, the only leader in history to lie to the electorate, who’d have thought it
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| Teddy Eagle 17 Feb 21 8.39am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Trump, the only leader in history to lie to the electorate, who’d have thought it Indeed. Here’s another.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 17 Feb 21 9.12am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
He has not been accused of making anyone do anything. People must rightly be held accountable for their own actions. What he was accused of doing was inciting them to believe things that were factually untrue, in a way that was inappropriate for a President, and thus a "high crime or misdemeanour". Not just on Jan 6th but in the months prior to and after the election. What they did as a consequence of that incitement is for them to answer. What that though has to do with the comment that you responded to beats me. On this basis, why wasn’t the President impeached when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq?
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