This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Is Trump going to make president?
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
jamiemartin721  Reading 21 Feb 17 12.05pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Yeah... cos loud opinionated idiots in the pub often get to be Billionaires and USA Presidents. The difference with Trump is that he can't be arsed with protocol and diplomacy.... he gets things done. I find it refreshing. But its not how democracies are supposed to work. Its not actually democratic, to pass laws without representation of the people. The great benefit of dictatorships, is that they get things done, without having to worry about things like protocol, due process and diplomacy. Protocol and diplomacy are kind of essential to the job of leading or running a democracy. We don't elect an overlord, just a leader.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
 |
| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Feb 17 12.10pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Yeah... cos loud opinionated idiots in the pub often get to be Billionaires and USA Presidents. The difference with Trump is that he can't be arsed with protocol and diplomacy.... he gets things done. I find it refreshing. Depends on the kind of pub you hang out in. Trump is really a billionaire on the basis that his father was rich. Being wealthy and successful doesn't mean your 'not that guy', its just that you're probably the loud drunk opinionated cock in a very sw***y exclusive bar that has ridiculously overprice drinks.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
 Kermit8  Hevon 21 Feb 17 12.11pm |
  |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Yeah... cos loud opinionated idiots in the pub often get to be Billionaires and USA Presidents. The difference with Trump is that he can't be arsed with protocol and diplomacy.... he gets things done. I find it refreshing. He's done fvck all Hoof except make America look the opposite of 'Great' so far. He is a little corporal born into extreme wealth and with a hint of narcissism/emotional immaturity even at his age. Not really the qualities one should have if one is going to be a positive and constructive leader. I find it depressing.
Big chest and massive boobs |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
 |
| Hoof Hearted 21 Feb 17 12.15pm | |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Kermit8
He's done fvck all Hoof except make America look the opposite of 'Great' so far. He is a little corporal born into extreme wealth and with a hint of narcissism/emotional immaturity even at his age. Not really the qualities one should have if one is going to be a positive and constructive leader. I find it depressing. Oh well.... we disagree again on fundamental issues. I'll bet he achieves more positive good in 8 months than Obama did in 8 years.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Jacey 21 Feb 17 12.22pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Certainly different from any other President we have ever seen.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Feb 17 2.07pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Oh well.... we disagree again on fundamental issues. I'll bet he achieves more positive good in 8 months than Obama did in 8 years. I suspect he'll achieve more harm to the idea and belief in democracy in the US, than he'll achieve in positive good. And besides, he'll just claim success, even if all evidence points to the contrary.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Feb 17 2.08pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Jacey
Certainly different from any other President we have ever seen. My bet is on resigning for health reasons, or to spend more time with his family. The US won't impeach him unless he refuses to step aside. Although for such an 'anti-establishment' candidate, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 'establishment' take him apart piece by piece, as a means of re-establishing their credibility. This is a president who seems to avoid daily intelligence briefings, but quotes Fox News as a source of world information. Edited by jamiemartin721 (21 Feb 2017 2.35pm)
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 21 Feb 17 2.22pm |
 |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Oh well.... we disagree again on fundamental issues. I'll bet he achieves more positive good in 8 months than Obama did in 8 years. Whether it's because of a media conspiracy or ineptitude, I think he'll achieve very little in the next 7 months. His administration is already in relative chaos, which is not a good sign. And that's besides the failure to recognise/acknowledge the significant achievements of the Obama administration, despite massive obstacles (even though some were disappointed). There can be very little doubt that what success he has achieved has been as a result of a combination of his personality/deal making traits and a very heavy dose of support from his father. He started with millions and doing nothing but sticking them in a tracker would have made him more wealthy than even he claims to be now (which is almost universally accepted to be an exaggeration of his wealth). And the fact that he has been bankrupted previously and subsequently bailed out by his father goes a long way to explaining what success he has had (that sort of risk taking isn't easy for people without massive family wealth backing them up to take). Edited by OknotOK (21 Feb 2017 2.24pm)
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Feb 17 2.32pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by OknotOK
Whether it's because of a media conspiracy or ineptitude, I think he'll achieve very little in the next 7 months. His administration is already in relative chaos, which is not a good sign. And that's besides the failure to recognise/acknowledge the significant achievements of the Obama administration, despite massive obstacles (even though some were disappointed). There can be very little doubt that what success he has achieved has been as a result of a combination of his personality/deal making traits and a very heavy dose of support from his father. He started with millions and doing nothing but sticking them in a tracker would have made him more wealthy than even he claims to be now (which is almost universally accepted to be an exaggeration of his wealth). And the fact that he has been bankrupted previously and subsequently bailed out by his father goes a long way to explaining what success he has had (that sort of risk taking isn't easy for people without massive family wealth backing them up to take). Edited by OknotOK (21 Feb 2017 2.24pm) Its also notable that 300m of his wealth is from rather questionable loans from the Deutsch bank. Who interestingly, he sued when they tried to collect 40m on a previous loan. His claim being they 'were part of the economic crisis'. Its rather interesting that a bank, that you sued, would lend 300m to someone who had refused to pay back 40m on previous loans. None of which is possibly related to the Russian arm of the Deutsch bank being found complicit in laundering over 10bn in illegal funds from Russia.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| .TUX. 21 Feb 17 2.35pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I suspect he'll achieve more harm to the idea and belief in democracy in the US, than he'll achieve in positive good. Obama-esque?
Buy Litecoin. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
 Hrolf The Ganger 21 Feb 17 2.39pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by jamiemartin721
My bet is on resigning for health reasons, or to spend more time with his family. The US won't impeach him unless he refuses to step aside. Although for such an 'anti-establishment' candidate, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 'establishment' take him apart piece by piece, as a means of re-establishing their credibility. This is a president who seems to avoid daily intelligence briefings, but quotes Fox News as a source of world information. Edited by jamiemartin721 (21 Feb 2017 2.35pm) I'm sure that the establishment will be trying very hare to make his presidency a failure.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| jamiemartin721 Reading 21 Feb 17 2.52pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm sure that the establishment will be trying very hare to make his presidency a failure.
I think Trump seems to be doing a rather top notch job of failing by himself, with a little help from his inner circle.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.