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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 15 5.51pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm If I had my way, yes. Obviously there would be financial compensation. Unless they put the houses to the use for which they are intended, ie habitation, rather than as an 'asset' / 'investment' It is morally scandalous that houses lie empty while there are people on the street. The government can't afford market rate on private houses. We need millions of new homes.....We need to ensure that they go to people who need them and not those looking at profiteering. Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 5.52pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm

If I had my way, yes. Obviously there would be financial compensation. Unless they put the houses to the use for which they are intended, ie habitation, rather than as an 'asset' / 'investment'
It is morally scandalous that houses lie empty while there are people on the street.

The government can't afford market rate on private houses. We need millions of new homes.....We need to ensure that they go to people who need them and not those looking at profiteering.

Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 5.52pm)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 5.51pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.47pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.44pm Yer totally wrong on Corbyn. What makes you think that? It's it just the under belly of the left coming out? Loads of new Labour will leave and vote Tory. There isn't enough actual socialists in England to fill Milton Keynes let alone win an election. Corbyn is unpopular on: The EU Immigration Nuclear weapons Foreign policy......wants to negotiate away the Falklands Not the thread to debate Corbyn. It's hard enough to navigate all the pseudo racist immigration threads as it is.
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Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 5.51pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.47pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.44pm

Yer totally wrong on Corbyn.

What makes you think that?

It's it just the under belly of the left coming out?

Loads of new Labour will leave and vote Tory. There isn't enough actual socialists in England to fill Milton Keynes let alone win an election.

Corbyn is unpopular on:

The EU
Immigration
Nuclear weapons
Foreign policy......wants to negotiate away the Falklands

Not the thread to debate Corbyn. It's hard enough to navigate all the pseudo racist immigration threads as it is.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 5.52pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm If I had my way, yes. Obviously there would be financial compensation. Unless they put the houses to the use for which they are intended, ie habitation, rather than as an 'asset' / 'investment' It is morally scandalous that houses lie empty while there are people on the street. The government can't afford market rate on private houses. Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses. But the country is burstingbursting and despite over 90 of land not built on we have no room apparently. . Far better to utilise current stock whilst building new stock. Edited by nickgusset (07 Sep 2015 5.53pm)
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Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 5.52pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm

The government can't afford market rate on private houses.

Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses.

But the country is burstingbursting and despite over 90 of land not built on we have no room apparently. . Far better to utilise current stock whilst building new stock.

Edited by nickgusset (07 Sep 2015 5.53pm)

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legaleagle 07 Sep 15 5.53pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.34pm It isn't good enough for the left to say.....Oh well, money isn't going to be spent on the homeless or the waiting lists so more immigrants and asylum is perfectly ok. The simple truth is that increasing the number of people requiring houses worsens the situation and waiting lists for the rest......It doesn't have minimal impact. The left were meant to stick up for the British working class. The reality is that they don't.....They are egalitarians.....Which is mostly a nice idea but it means that ultimately they don't put British working people first. All they see is working people. They are quite prepared to lower living standards here for the most vulnerable in society to act as the 'world's carer'. The British working class were right to dump Labour long ago......The problem is that Labour are a bit slow on the uptake.....They actually think they are going to win these people back. Labour in England now are not far off of being a jumped up pressure group.....Especially if Corbyn gets in. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 5.39pm) Yes,I know your views Stirling. The left were meant to stick up for the underdog.They weren't, as perversely happened in pre-war in South Africa meant to call for "white workers of the world to unite". Funny how Corbyn is actually (more than any other party) proposing concrete policy to try and tackle the housing crisis.I think you live in a dream world if you think the underlying reasons for the housing crisis and homelessness stem primarily from immigration. [Link]
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07 Sep 15 5.53pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.34pm

It isn't good enough for the left to say.....Oh well, money isn't going to be spent on the homeless or the waiting lists so more immigrants and asylum is perfectly ok.

The simple truth is that increasing the number of people requiring houses worsens the situation and waiting lists for the rest......It doesn't have minimal impact.

The left were meant to stick up for the British working class.

The reality is that they don't.....They are egalitarians.....Which is mostly a nice idea but it means that ultimately they don't put British working people first.

All they see is working people.

They are quite prepared to lower living standards here for the most vulnerable in society to act as the 'world's carer'.

The British working class were right to dump Labour long ago......The problem is that Labour are a bit slow on the uptake.....They actually think they are going to win these people back.

Labour in England now are not far off of being a jumped up pressure group.....Especially if Corbyn gets in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 5.39pm)

Yes,I know your views Stirling.

The left were meant to stick up for the underdog.They weren't, as perversely happened in pre-war in South Africa meant to call for "white workers of the world to unite".

Funny how Corbyn is actually (more than any other party) proposing concrete policy to try and tackle the housing crisis.I think you live in a dream world if you think the underlying reasons for the housing crisis and homelessness stem primarily from immigration.

[Link]

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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 15 5.54pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm Not the thread to debate Corbyn. It's hard enough to navigate all the pseudo racist immigration threads as it is. I'm not sure someone can be a 'pseudo racist'. I love an immigration thread......Probably a little too much. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Sep 15 5.54pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm

Not the thread to debate Corbyn. It's hard enough to navigate all the pseudo racist immigration threads as it is.

I'm not sure someone can be a 'pseudo racist'.

I love an immigration thread......Probably a little too much.

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oldcodger 07 Sep 15 6.00pm
A sensible, sober decision from Cameron. Taking 20,000 of the most vulnerable from camps in Syria over a period of five years. A 0.03% increase in population in exchange for completely transforming the lives of kids in dire need. Edited by oldcodger (07 Sep 2015 6.00pm)
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07 Sep 15 6.00pm

A sensible, sober decision from Cameron. Taking 20,000 of the most vulnerable from camps in Syria over a period of five years. A 0.03% increase in population in exchange for completely transforming the lives of kids in dire need.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 07 Sep 15 6.00pm
Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.40pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.15pm Going back to the posts original heading. Maybe the attached link is one of the reasons why the British people have had enough of immigration. [Link] Yet another Asian gang raping our children! Hope these scum bags get the f@ucking sh@t kicked out of then in prison. Would quite happily do it myself! Funny how you didn't appear to have got equally outraged and have felt the need to post about this gang of 10,"raping our children" for example. [Link] Then again, they don't appear to be immigrants or of Asian descent and as we all know "Asians" are predisposed to be child abusers more than "us",so therefore,as the OP said,"no more immigrants"! Edited by legaleagle (07 Sep 2015 5.43pm) No Legal - I don’t think there is anything "funny" at all about this, personally I find it pretty damn disgusting, regardless of where the child rapist come from. What there is though (which you and the other lefties will no doubt deny) is a culture of degrading women among Muslim society. Look at Syria at the moment – there is wide spread rape taking place among its women folk. I know you will pull out this stat or that stat to show how every race or nationality has exactly the same amount of weirdos/perverts/criminals etc as any other, but you are wrong legal, Muslims are time and time and time again getting caught for this. When I heard about this on the news, I expected they would be Muslims before I even heard any details, the strange thing is, Ayesbury hardly has any Muslims, and yet guess what, they did turn out to be Muslims! I’m glad you seem to be OK about this, because I’m pretty not f@cking Ok with this. Any of these c@nts ever come near one of my daughters and I would f@cking kill them. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (07 Sep 2015 6.02pm) "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 07 Sep 15 6.00pm

Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.40pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.15pm

Going back to the posts original heading.

Maybe the attached link is one of the reasons why the British people have had enough of immigration.

[Link]

Yet another Asian gang raping our children!

Hope these scum bags get the f@ucking sh@t kicked out of then in prison. Would quite happily do it myself!

Funny how you didn't appear to have got equally outraged and have felt the need to post about this gang of 10,"raping our children" for example.

[Link]

Then again, they don't appear to be immigrants or of Asian descent and as we all know "Asians" are predisposed to be child abusers more than "us",so therefore,as the OP said,"no more immigrants"!

Edited by legaleagle (07 Sep 2015 5.43pm)

No Legal - I don’t think there is anything "funny" at all about this, personally I find it pretty damn disgusting, regardless of where the child rapist come from.
What there is though (which you and the other lefties will no doubt deny) is a culture of degrading women among Muslim society. Look at Syria at the moment – there is wide spread rape taking place among its women folk.
I know you will pull out this stat or that stat to show how every race or nationality has exactly the same amount of weirdos/perverts/criminals etc as any other, but you are wrong legal, Muslims are time and time and time again getting caught for this.
When I heard about this on the news, I expected they would be Muslims before I even heard any details, the strange thing is, Ayesbury hardly has any Muslims, and yet guess what, they did turn out to be Muslims!
I’m glad you seem to be OK about this, because I’m pretty not f@cking Ok with this. Any of these c@nts ever come near one of my daughters and I would f@cking kill them.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (07 Sep 2015 6.02pm)

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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 15 6.01pm
Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.53pm Yes,I know your views Stirling. The left were meant to stick up for the underdog.They weren't, as perversely happened in pre-war in South Africa meant to call for "white workers of the world to unite". Funny how Corbyn is actually (more than any other party) proposing concrete policy to try and tackle the housing crisis.I think you live in a dream world if you think the underlying reasons for the housing crisis and homelessness stem primarily from immigration. [Link] Corbyn thinks he can get councils to build 240,000 houses a year minimum......Don't make me laugh. As for your immigration point......240,000.....With net immigration into the country being way higher than that.....240,000 is probably only a catch up of around about 100,000 houses a year. And that's if you could ensure that these houses only went to people who really needed them. I've never made the point that the housing crises is only down to immigration. I've recognised the problem of an aging population and of governments selling off council housing stock and not replacing it. Housing associations have jumped into between the gap.....And they are a much poorer deal for the working class than your old council house. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 6.02pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Sep 15 6.01pm

Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.53pm

Yes,I know your views Stirling.

[Link]

Corbyn thinks he can get councils to build 240,000 houses a year minimum......Don't make me laugh.

As for your immigration point......240,000.....With net immigration into the country being way higher than that.....240,000 is probably only a catch up of around about 100,000 houses a year.

And that's if you could ensure that these houses only went to people who really needed them.

I've never made the point that the housing crises is only down to immigration. I've recognised the problem of an aging population and of governments selling off council housing stock and not replacing it.

Housing associations have jumped into between the gap.....And they are a much poorer deal for the working class than your old council house.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 6.02pm)

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farms Thailand / England 07 Sep 15 6.02pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Sep 2015 4.44pm Quote farms at 07 Sep 2015 4.24pm Camemoran is allowing 20k plus more to come here , feel sorry for people on the housing waiting list . How long have you been in Thailand? Do they even still have council waiting lists. I thought these days it was housing benefit, private landlords and housing associations. I am in England last 2 years running my business . should change where i am on header.
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Thailand / England 07 Sep 15 6.02pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Sep 2015 4.44pm

Quote farms at 07 Sep 2015 4.24pm

Camemoran is allowing 20k plus more to come here , feel sorry for people on the housing waiting list .

How long have you been in Thailand? Do they even still have council waiting lists. I thought these days it was housing benefit, private landlords and housing associations.

I am in England last 2 years running my business .
should change where i am on header.

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Stirlingsays 07 Sep 15 6.05pm
Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.52pm Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm If I had my way, yes. Obviously there would be financial compensation. Unless they put the houses to the use for which they are intended, ie habitation, rather than as an 'asset' / 'investment' It is morally scandalous that houses lie empty while there are people on the street. The government can't afford market rate on private houses. Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses. But the country is burstingbursting and despite over 90 of land not built on we have no room apparently. . Far better to utilise current stock whilst building new stock. Edited by nickgusset (07 Sep 2015 5.53pm) 90 percent of land not built on......Nick you do love a sound bite.....really......All the gardens in the country are included in that silly figure. There is nothing like 90 percent of land suitable for building houses on. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Sep 15 6.05pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.52pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm

The government can't afford market rate on private houses.

Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses.

But the country is burstingbursting and despite over 90 of land not built on we have no room apparently. . Far better to utilise current stock whilst building new stock.

Edited by nickgusset (07 Sep 2015 5.53pm)

90 percent of land not built on......Nick you do love a sound bite.....really......All the gardens in the country are included in that silly figure.

There is nothing like 90 percent of land suitable for building houses on.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 6.06pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 6.01pm Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.53pm Yes,I know your views Stirling. The left were meant to stick up for the underdog.They weren't, as perversely happened in pre-war in South Africa meant to call for "white workers of the world to unite". Funny how Corbyn is actually (more than any other party) proposing concrete policy to try and tackle the housing crisis.I think you live in a dream world if you think the underlying reasons for the housing crisis and homelessness stem primarily from immigration. [Link] Corbyn thinks he can get councils to build 240,000 houses a year minimum......Don't make me laugh. As for your immigration point......240,000.....With net immigration into the country being way higher than that.....240,000 is probably only a catch up of around about 100,000 houses a year. And that's if you could ensure that these houses only went to people who really needed them. I've never made the point that the housing crises is only down to immigration. I've recognised the problem of an aging population and of governments selling off council housing stock and not replacing it. Housing associations have jumped into between the gap.....And they are a much poorer deal for the working class than your old council house. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 6.02pm) Corbyn is the only (high profile) MP saying this, you agree with it in principle, yet deride him.
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Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 6.06pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 6.01pm

Quote legaleagle at 07 Sep 2015 5.53pm

Yes,I know your views Stirling.

[Link]

Corbyn thinks he can get councils to build 240,000 houses a year minimum......Don't make me laugh.

As for your immigration point......240,000.....With net immigration into the country being way higher than that.....240,000 is probably only a catch up of around about 100,000 houses a year.

And that's if you could ensure that these houses only went to people who really needed them.

Housing associations have jumped into between the gap.....And they are a much poorer deal for the working class than your old council house.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2015 6.02pm)

Corbyn is the only (high profile) MP saying this, you agree with it in principle, yet deride him.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 6.07pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 6.05pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.52pm Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm If I had my way, yes. Obviously there would be financial compensation. Unless they put the houses to the use for which they are intended, ie habitation, rather than as an 'asset' / 'investment' It is morally scandalous that houses lie empty while there are people on the street. The government can't afford market rate on private houses. Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses. But the country is burstingbursting and despite over 90 of land not built on we have no room apparently. . Far better to utilise current stock whilst building new stock. Edited by nickgusset (07 Sep 2015 5.53pm) 90 percent of land not built on......Nick you do love a sound bite.....really......All the gardens in the country are included in that silly figure. There is nothing like 90 percent of land suitable for building houses on. Nit picking, the point is still the same.
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Shizzlehurst 07 Sep 15 6.07pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 6.05pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.52pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 07 Sep 2015 5.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 07 Sep 2015 5.48pm

The government can't afford market rate on private houses.

Far, far, far cheaper to build new houses.

But the country is burstingbursting and despite over 90 of land not built on we have no room apparently. . Far better to utilise current stock whilst building new stock.

Edited by nickgusset (07 Sep 2015 5.53pm)

90 percent of land not built on......Nick you do love a sound bite.....really......All the gardens in the country are included in that silly figure.

There is nothing like 90 percent of land suitable for building houses on.

Nit picking, the point is still the same.

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