This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
CONservative government incompetence.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 Stirlingsays  21 Feb 24 9.33am |
   |
|---|---|
|
Most people aren't stupid but they are essentially gullible and have a natural inclination to believe narratives and want to fit in. Everyone, including me, fall for this...probably countless times in our lives...because we probably don't have the time to objectively check on what's being said or we don't have experience in the topic in question. As a former teacher I would read narratives in the mainstream media about the teaching profession (and I'm hardly an apologist for the mess the left have made of teaching) and I'd shake my head at the views put forward. But people just accept and believe what's being said because it's easy and they know no different and have no time or inclination to find out. If you think of your own profession and how it's written about in the media you probably note the same impression. Well, naturally this is going to extend out to most things....whatever the establishment want you to believe is essentially what most people will end up believing......unless it results in obvious personal cost to them. The manipulation of human nature to agree with many of our elite's decisions explains much of why we are essentially fecked. [Tweet Link]
Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2024 9.41am)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Feb 24 9.45am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Most people aren't stupid but they are essentially gullible and have a natural inclination to believe narratives and want to fit in. Everyone, including me, fall for this...probably countless times in our lives...because we probably don't have the time to objectively check on what's being said or we don't have experience in the topic in question. As a former teacher I would read narratives in the mainstream media about the teaching profession (and I'm hardly an apologist for the mess the left have made of teaching) and I'd shake my head at the views put forward. But people just accept and believe what's being said because it's easy and they know no different and have no time or inclination to find out. If you think of your own profession and how it's written about in the media you probably note the same impression. Well, naturally this is going to extend out to most things....whatever the establishment want you to believe is essentially what most people will end up believing......unless it results in obvious personal cost to them. The manipulation of human nature to agree with many of our elite's decisions explains many of why we are essentially fecked. [Tweet Link]
Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2024 9.36am) My career was in Banking I remember when Barings collapsed and thousands lost their jobs. The media reported this was glee I worked with some of these people, they were decent and hard working and hadn't even heard of Nick Leeson. The media love to portrait Financial Service workers as rich, greedy and corrupt in fact most of us were earning a standard wage and were honest decent people. The crooks were nearly all at the top and even then they were a tiny minority.
One more point |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
HKOwen  Hong Kong 21 Feb 24 10.22am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Badger11
My career was in Banking I remember when Barings collapsed and thousands lost their jobs. The media reported this was glee I worked with some of these people, they were decent and hard working and hadn't even heard of Nick Leeson. The media love to portrait Financial Service workers as rich, greedy and corrupt in fact most of us were earning a standard wage and were honest decent people. The crooks were nearly all at the top and even then they were a tiny minority. That doesn't fit with the Left's politics of envy, dog whistle and the us and them narrative. Steeleye can amplify as he lives and breathes this nonsense.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Feb 24 10.37am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by HKOwen
That doesn't fit with the Left's politics of envy, dog whistle and the us and them narrative. Steeleye can amplify as he lives and breathes this nonsense. I would imagine that estate agents will have a similar tale.
One more point |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Feb 24 10.51am |
|
|---|---|
|
'It just went plop'. The trident missile failure, with the tory defence secretary on board, conjures up perfectly the image of tory Britain where nothing actually works. The last one in 2016, veered off in the opposite direction. Two out of four aircraft carriers with propellor issues. MOD says 'anomaly' would not happen in an actual war. How reassuring that is, at this rate we would probably blow up ourselves. Agree with Stirling on believability.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Badger11 Beckenham 21 Feb 24 10.57am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
'It just went plop'. The trident missile failure, with the tory defence secretary on board, conjures up perfectly the image of tory Britain where nothing actually works. The last one in 2016, veered off in the opposite direction. Two out of four aircraft carriers with propellor issues. MOD says 'anomaly' would not happen in an actual war. How reassuring that is, at this rate we would probably blow up ourselves. Agree with Stirling on believability.
Yup blame the government. I expect the Trident missile was armed and fired by Rishi Sunak himself, nothing to do with the American manufacturers or the Navy.
One more point |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| steeleye20 Croydon 21 Feb 24 11.46am |
|
|---|---|
|
No class UK. Should have buried the Assange affair years ago, now look at it. Obama was prepared to look the other way. On this and other present issues the UK should not be afraid to tell the USA cordially 'non'.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stirlingsays 21 Feb 24 2.10pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Badger11
My career was in Banking I remember when Barings collapsed and thousands lost their jobs. The media reported this was glee I worked with some of these people, they were decent and hard working and hadn't even heard of Nick Leeson. The media love to portrait Financial Service workers as rich, greedy and corrupt in fact most of us were earning a standard wage and were honest decent people. The crooks were nearly all at the top and even then they were a tiny minority. It's an excellent point.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
cryrst  The garden of England 21 Feb 24 4.41pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
No class UK. Should have buried the Assange affair years ago, now look at it. Obama was prepared to look the other way. On this and other present issues the UK should not be afraid to tell the USA cordially 'non'.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 24 6.43pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Badger11
My career was in Banking I remember when Barings collapsed and thousands lost their jobs. The media reported this was glee I worked with some of these people, they were decent and hard working and hadn't even heard of Nick Leeson. The media love to portrait Financial Service workers as rich, greedy and corrupt in fact most of us were earning a standard wage and were honest decent people. The crooks were nearly all at the top and even then they were a tiny minority. Most people everywhere, whatever their background or jobs, are honest decent people. Even those, like me, who worked in sales and marketing. Something the OP finds difficult to accept, thus proving his own contention of gullibility. It also applies to our politicians and those who work in the media. The only thing that’s different are their roles and what is necessary to fulfil them. There is no elite group plotting behind the curtains and pulling the strings. That’s just the reasoning of a gullible group unable to accept reality. It’s just the way our society works. There are indeed crooks willing to exploit weaknesses. There are many others trying to stop them.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| HKOwen Hong Kong 22 Feb 24 12.42am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
No class UK. Should have buried the Assange affair years ago, now look at it. Obama was prepared to look the other way. On this and other present issues the UK should not be afraid to tell the USA cordially 'non'.
Let's ask the families of the people who were killed, tortured and imprisoned as a result of Assange's arrogance. My issue is the waste of taxpayer's money over the years.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Stirlingsays 22 Feb 24 9.00am |
|
|---|---|
|
When the guy who pushed the Russiagate hoax for years on here does the 'nothing to see here' meme. [Tweet Link]
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.