Would those be the problems that were happening 'yesterday' in Sweeden? That were a terrorist incident, that has since been downgraded to generalisations about immigration.

Liberal left is really only a term used by those on the fringes of the right wing, to explain anything that isn't right wing. It literally refers to everyone else on the political spectrum (and increasingly the more moderate right wing).

Its one of those darling right wing snowflake terms to present how everyone, even the facts, are against them, and everyone is lying to them - its bunker mentality rhetoric used by people in denial.

Its everyone else who's wrong, the liberals, the democrats, the left wing, the academics, the media (even when it right wing bias media if it disagrees), politicians, the judiciary and so on.

Basically, its denial mentality.

Did you work out the percentage of the population that went off to fight in Iraq and Syria? Also did you take into account which sides they went to fight for? I know everyone likes to assume that every muslim headed for Iraq and Syria, are fervent IS fanatics but don't for get that there are volunteers also fighting with the Syrian Rebels, Syrian Loyalists and Kurdish forces.

Also, as note before, if you try to calculate the percentage of population that has left for Syria / Iraq, its so low, it will crash you windows calaculator.

A nice bit of one sided rhetoric.

I'd say that the left and liberal are far better at denial and ignoring reality. They are usually engaged in rhetoric and political games, desperately attempting to justify their inflexible ideology and avoid facing obvious eventualities.
It is often driven by envy, persecution complex, naivety, self loathing, delusions of moral superiority or idealism.

When you stop considering that, you are lost.

I think you must hold views that you actually believe in rather than clinging to a definition of who you are.
We must all expose ourselves to reality where possible rather than living in a bubble. The trouble is the 'reality' we are often exposed to is usually filtered through several layers of bias. If that bias effectively changes or fudges the reality then it is tantamount to a cover up, deliberate or unintentional.

What we have is far more in the media is editorial comment. Even historical pieces are subject to blatant revisionism and fatuous interpretation. The news is not the news. It is entertainment slanted to be controversial,sensational and pandering to the mob.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Feb 2017 3.12pm)

The membership of the BNP is estimated at the same sort of figure, 500-600, so presumably you don't think the BNP represent any sort of problem either?

Its the 'best President ever'. Its like a joke that keeps on giving. Is there anyone else left outside his own inner circle that he hasn't alienated. Even Fox News and the Republicans seem to have turned against him.

Its like watching a Chris Morris sketch in real time. I though Bush was occasionally entertaining, but a least his 'puppet masters' keep hold of the strings.

This guy, its as close as you'll ever get to seeing just how well that loud, opinionated idiot in the pub could actually cope if he was 'given the power'.

I don't need to watch comedy anymore, I just have to watch the US news.