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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Sep 15 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.09pm

I'm a dad (for all that's worth)
And I'll be signing the... I'm not taking my kids from a safe place on an ever so slightly 'riskey' adventure, where they could possibly die, just to get my teeth done. Oh sh!t my kids died, yea you get a picture of that, lets make it all worth while eh.'

Hopefully no one is going to call this man's actions 'brave'.

 

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oldcodger Flag 06 Sep 15 11.12pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.51pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?


Thus far, donated to the children's appeal, but this is one of those questions where no answer is good enough. I notice more people are coming out and saying they will open up their homes. You look at the comment section on these articles and people are slagging them off as 'wealthy do gooders'.


Haha, my second question is.... Are you a politician!?
As your answer was.... Shameful.

Like I said, I already knew it would it seen as such

 
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oldcodger Flag 06 Sep 15 11.15pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.09pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.02pm

Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm

Quote dannyboy1978 at 06 Sep 2015 9.31pm

The no more imigrants petition has shot up!
[Link]


My petition [Link] is bigger than your petition.

I'll be signing it.. along with lots of Dads.


I'm a dad (for all that's worth)
And I'll be signing the... I'm not taking my kids from a safe place on an ever so slightly 'riskey' adventure, where they could possibly die, just to get my teeth done. Oh sh!t my kids died, yea you get a picture of that, lets make it all worth while eh.'

Petition.

Edited by ZIGnZAG (06 Sep 2015 11.11pm)

Yes because whatever happened in this situation is indicative of the hundreds of thousands of people trying to get out of the country? Like I said, this kid is getting exploited left, right and centre and this contribution is just another example of it.

Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 11.16pm)

 
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oldcodger Flag 06 Sep 15 11.15pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote Stirlingsays at 06 Sep 2015 10.59pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.41pm

I didn't say they were equal in worth anywhere actually. Keep digging. I said that bravery was attached to both decisions, to stay or to go. You're conjuring up things I didn't ever say, and I'm the one misrepresenting?

Listen, this isn't fun for others to read.


Perpetually getting your panties in a bunch online vs escaping a war torn country via a perilous journey to start a new life.. and these "cowardly young men" are the ones we should "doubt the worth" of. Boy oh boy did we get fat off the land in this country.

And no, again these are your exact words, not a 'misrepresentation'.

Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 10.42pm)


So you are saying that both actions are 'brave' but that staying and fighting is the braver course of action?

Again, I repeat.....What are you giving to those staying and fighting? One action gets the big pay off.....What do the people standing and fighting getting?

As for my words...About cowards....yes, finally you get some accuracy.


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 11.01pm)

I don't operate a 'worth-o-meter'. I'm not offering a rating, or putting stars on a chart, these are peoples lives, not fodder for internet point scoring. You said that you doubted their worth and that they were cowards, I thought that was strong considering their situation and pointed out that neither choice is some kind of piece of piss in the grand scheme of things. They could die either way. Hardly an outrageous view ... or so I thought. That is what I said, anything outside of that is whatever you have imagined it into.

This is silly. I have work in the morning. It's clear that you thrive off being angry. You're entitled to it mate. I'm off your radar from now on.

Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 11.18pm)

 
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Stirlingsays Flag 06 Sep 15 11.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 11.15pm

I don't operate a 'worth-o-meter'. I'm not offering a rating, or putting stars on a chart, these are peoples lives, not fodder for internet point scoring. You said that you doubted their worth and that they were cowards, I thought that was strong considering their situation and pointed out that neither choice is some kind of piece of piss in the grand scheme of things. They could die either way. Hardly an outrageous view ... or so I thought. That is what I said, anything outside of that is whatever you have imagined it into.

This is silly. I have work in the morning. It's clear that you thrive off being angry. You're entitled to it mate. I'm off your radar from now on.

Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 11.18pm)

How 'brave' of you.

So states that he didn't say there was 'no difference' but refuses to state a difference between the two presented actions because he doesn't operate a 'worth-o-meter'.

Risible.


 

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ZIGnZAG Flag Stoke 07 Sep 15 12.35am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.51pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?


Thus far, donated to the children's appeal, but this is one of those questions where no answer is good enough. I notice more people are coming out and saying they will open up their homes. You look at the comment section on these articles and people are slagging them off as 'wealthy do gooders'.


Haha, my second question is.... Are you a politician!?
As your answer was.... Shameful.


Oh and just as a side thought ode....

Someone else had put that they had donated to charities(to help these people) your reply to that was... 'this is like a my dads bigger than your dad argument'. ( I am now mocking you for this as you use this.... reply/answer when you clearly have nothing worthy.....
I asked you a simple question... What have you done to help these people/asylum seekers....??
And you replied with.... Thus far, donated...... I then turned off.

 
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01CPFC Flag central coast NSW (The Mariners Mi... 07 Sep 15 1.34am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 07 Sep 2015 12.35am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.51pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?


Thus far, donated to the children's appeal, but this is one of those questions where no answer is good enough. I notice more people are coming out and saying they will open up their homes. You look at the comment section on these articles and people are slagging them off as 'wealthy do gooders'.


Haha, my second question is.... Are you a politician!?
As your answer was.... Shameful.


Oh and just as a side thought ode....

Someone else had put that they had donated to charities(to help these people) your reply to that was... 'this is like a my dads bigger than your dad argument'. ( I am now mocking you for this as you use this.... reply/answer when you clearly have nothing worthy.....
I asked you a simple question... What have you done to help these people/asylum seekers....??
And you replied with.... Thus far, donated...... I then turned off.

TRUCE
FFS Make it a draw
COYP

 

Where is the Joker shown, I haven't used it ?
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oldcodger Flag 07 Sep 15 9.10am Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote 01CPFC at 07 Sep 2015 1.34am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 07 Sep 2015 12.35am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.51pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?


Thus far, donated to the children's appeal, but this is one of those questions where no answer is good enough. I notice more people are coming out and saying they will open up their homes. You look at the comment section on these articles and people are slagging them off as 'wealthy do gooders'.


Haha, my second question is.... Are you a politician!?
As your answer was.... Shameful.


Oh and just as a side thought ode....

Someone else had put that they had donated to charities(to help these people) your reply to that was... 'this is like a my dads bigger than your dad argument'. ( I am now mocking you for this as you use this.... reply/answer when you clearly have nothing worthy.....
I asked you a simple question... What have you done to help these people/asylum seekers....??
And you replied with.... Thus far, donated...... I then turned off.

TRUCE
FFS Make it a draw
COYP

We have a winner!

 
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oldcodger Flag 07 Sep 15 9.13am Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Will be interesting to hear the numbers in Cameron's resettlement plan:

[Link]

I'm glad we're doing our bit.

Edited by oldcodger (07 Sep 2015 9.20am)

 
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Sep 15 10.39am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 11.09pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.02pm

Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm

Quote dannyboy1978 at 06 Sep 2015 9.31pm

The no more imigrants petition has shot up!
[Link]


My petition [Link] is bigger than your petition.

I'll be signing it.. along with lots of Dads.


I'm a dad (for all that's worth)
And I'll be signing the... I'm not taking my kids from a safe place on an ever so slightly 'riskey' adventure, where they could possibly die, just to get my teeth done. Oh sh!t my kids died, yea you get a picture of that, lets make it all worth while eh.'

Petition.

Edited by ZIGnZAG (06 Sep 2015 11.11pm)

I'm not entirely sure you can call a refugee camp safe, given the history of refugee camps, and the inherent problems of increasing numbers of refugees and overcrowding. Temporary solutions at best.


 

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 07 Sep 15 10.41am Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

meanwhile we have 90,000 + children homeless living in shelters, B&B's and hostels.

It is reported that as many as 9,000 war veterans are among Britains homeless which I belive as a total is about 10% of Britains total homeless figure.

But heyt fcuk it, lets have 10,000 people already in a camp in shelter and safe from harm, (that are from a country that isnt as f***ed up as eveyone seems to think, try Sierra Leone, now thats f***ed.) jump the cue and have the red carpet rolled out for them.

Why ?

Why are our own children, veterans who fought for the country, and British people being treated as second class citizens, being largely ignored.

Sickens me to my stomach.

 

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Sep 15 10.42am

Oldcodger / Zig-N-Zag

Please refrain from targeting each other, and try to stick to the discussion, salient points and opinions.

Please give the 'me vs you' a rest.

 

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