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Mapletree Croydon 08 Jun 20 11.12am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 We shoved white boys up chimneys, times have changed, it's called progress and we should remember our past for good and bad. Good point So should I withdraw my request to Leeds General Infirmary to remove the statue of Jimmy Savile holding a little girl's hand then?
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Mapletree

Croydon 08 Jun 20 11.12am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

We shoved white boys up chimneys, times have changed, it's called progress and we should remember our past for good and bad.

Good point

So should I withdraw my request to Leeds General Infirmary to remove the statue of Jimmy Savile holding a little girl's hand then?

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Stirlingsays 08 Jun 20 11.16am
Originally posted by Mapletree I see history - along with logic - really isn't your strong point. I recommend that you become involved deeply in Black History Month. To get you started: [Link] [Link] Slavery was in Africa long before Europeans turned up and it remains there now. As for your logic. forgive me the laughter. I'm not interested in your submission, you can get on your knees if you want to. I'll kneel before nothing but my metaphorical god. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.12pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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08 Jun 20 11.16am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I see history - along with logic - really isn't your strong point. I recommend that you become involved deeply in Black History Month.

To get you started:

[Link]

Slavery was in Africa long before Europeans turned up and it remains there now.

As for your logic. forgive me the laughter.

I'm not interested in your submission, you can get on your knees if you want to. I'll kneel before nothing but my metaphorical god.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.12pm)

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Belmont 08 Jun 20 11.39am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Slavery was in Africa long before Europeans turned up and it remains there now. As for your logic. forgive me the laughter. I'm not interested in your submission, you can get on your kneed if you want to. I'll kneel before nothing but my metaphorical god. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.19am) So where systems of rule that were denied the chance to evolve naturally in the same historic time frame as European systems of government without an alien parliamentary government being forced on them.
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08 Jun 20 11.39am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Slavery was in Africa long before Europeans turned up and it remains there now.

As for your logic. forgive me the laughter.

I'm not interested in your submission, you can get on your kneed if you want to. I'll kneel before nothing but my metaphorical god.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.19am)

So where systems of rule that were denied the chance to evolve naturally in the same historic time frame as European systems of government without an alien parliamentary government being forced on them.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 20 11.50am
Originally posted by Mapletree Good point So should I withdraw my request to Leeds General Infirmary to remove the statue of Jimmy Savile holding a little girl's hand then? Is there any level of spurious argument that you won't stoop to? What is most sad is that you know you are talking cobblers. I believe it is called trolling.
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08 Jun 20 11.50am

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Good point

So should I withdraw my request to Leeds General Infirmary to remove the statue of Jimmy Savile holding a little girl's hand then?

Is there any level of spurious argument that you won't stoop to?
What is most sad is that you know you are talking cobblers.
I believe it is called trolling.

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Stirlingsays 08 Jun 20 11.51am
Originally posted by Belmont So where systems of rule that were denied the chance to evolve naturally in the same historic time frame as European systems of government without an alien parliamentary government being forced on them. Before Europeans turned up Africa's systems were presided upon by Africans, much as they are now. The fact that they were primitive societies that weren't even using the wheel is for them and not the fault of Europeans. Europeans were in Asian and India as well.....Those continents and countries are doing well. You appear to be trying to blame Africa's problems on Europeans when the reality is that when the Europeans left Africa the continent economy....much as its life expectancy went down. Yet instead of the truth, the anti white narrative is repeated to cover up for Africa's very real failings. It's like, Python's 'what did the Romans ever do for us' sketch. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.52am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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08 Jun 20 11.51am

Originally posted by Belmont

Before Europeans turned up Africa's systems were presided upon by Africans, much as they are now.

The fact that they were primitive societies that weren't even using the wheel is for them and not the fault of Europeans.

Europeans were in Asian and India as well.....Those continents and countries are doing well.

You appear to be trying to blame Africa's problems on Europeans when the reality is that when the Europeans left Africa the continent economy....much as its life expectancy went down.

Yet instead of the truth, the anti white narrative is repeated to cover up for Africa's very real failings.

It's like, Python's 'what did the Romans ever do for us' sketch.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.52am)

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Mapletree Croydon 08 Jun 20 11.52am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Slavery was in Africa long before Europeans turned up and it remains there now. As for your logic. forgive me the laughter. I'm not interested in your submission, you can get on your kneed if you want to. I'll kneel before nothing but my metaphorical god. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.19am) I did mention your struggle with logic I believe Historic slavery in Africa largely resulted in the slaves remaining in Africa and generated revenue and development there. Frankly, what you do on your knees is nothing to do with me and I don't really like to think about it.
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Mapletree

Croydon 08 Jun 20 11.52am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Slavery was in Africa long before Europeans turned up and it remains there now.

As for your logic. forgive me the laughter.

I'm not interested in your submission, you can get on your kneed if you want to. I'll kneel before nothing but my metaphorical god.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.19am)

I did mention your struggle with logic I believe

Historic slavery in Africa largely resulted in the slaves remaining in Africa and generated revenue and development there.

Frankly, what you do on your knees is nothing to do with me and I don't really like to think about it.

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Belmont 08 Jun 20 11.59am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Before Europeans turned up Africa's systems were presided upon by Africans, much as they are now. The fact that they were primitive societies that weren't even using the wheel is for them and not the fault of Europeans. Europeans were in Asian and India as well.....Those continents and countries are doing well. You appear to be trying to blame Africa's problems on Europeans when the reality is that when the Europeans left Africa the continent economy....much as its life expectancy went down. Yet instead of the truth, the anti white narrative is repeated to cover up for Africa's very real failings. It's like, Python's 'what did the Romans ever do for us' sketch. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.52am) conversely you seem to be ignoring the fact that the erosion of a way of life including the attempted eradication of language and huge crippling third world debt that was forced on African countries would have had no effect. It's as if you think African countries did that to themselves without any European involvement, interesting take I must say.
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Belmont

08 Jun 20 11.59am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Before Europeans turned up Africa's systems were presided upon by Africans, much as they are now.

The fact that they were primitive societies that weren't even using the wheel is for them and not the fault of Europeans.

Europeans were in Asian and India as well.....Those continents and countries are doing well.

You appear to be trying to blame Africa's problems on Europeans when the reality is that when the Europeans left Africa the continent economy....much as its life expectancy went down.

Yet instead of the truth, the anti white narrative is repeated to cover up for Africa's very real failings.

It's like, Python's 'what did the Romans ever do for us' sketch.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 11.52am)

conversely you seem to be ignoring the fact that the erosion of a way of life including the attempted eradication of language and huge crippling third world debt that was forced on African countries would have had no effect.

It's as if you think African countries did that to themselves without any European involvement, interesting take I must say.

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Stirlingsays 08 Jun 20 12.00pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I did mention your struggle with logic I believe Historic slavery in Africa largely resulted in the slaves remaining in Africa and generated revenue and development there. Frankly, what you do on your knees is nothing to do with me and I don't really like to think about it. I'm not interested in your lies, either the ones you tell yourself or the ones you push on here. Slavery was in Africa and remains in Africa....it is a terrible reality, but it is for them to solve. As for your homosexuality joke.....You know it makes me laugh. Now I'm not particularly pro homosexual but I'm live and let live as long as no one's indoctrinating my kids or requiring my approval.....what you get up to is for you. Having said that I'm not the one sold to the pro gay agenda.....People like you and Dan are. So when you make homosexuality jokes under the guise of it's alright to make them to those who promote masculinity.....again the double think makes me laugh. So on that level at least. You succeeded. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.00pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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08 Jun 20 12.00pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I did mention your struggle with logic I believe

Historic slavery in Africa largely resulted in the slaves remaining in Africa and generated revenue and development there.

Frankly, what you do on your knees is nothing to do with me and I don't really like to think about it.

I'm not interested in your lies, either the ones you tell yourself or the ones you push on here.

Slavery was in Africa and remains in Africa....it is a terrible reality, but it is for them to solve.

As for your homosexuality joke.....You know it makes me laugh. Now I'm not particularly pro homosexual but I'm live and let live as long as no one's indoctrinating my kids or requiring my approval.....what you get up to is for you.

Having said that I'm not the one sold to the pro gay agenda.....People like you and Dan are.

So when you make homosexuality jokes under the guise of it's alright to make them to those who promote masculinity.....again the double think makes me laugh.

So on that level at least. You succeeded.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.00pm)

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dannyboy1978 08 Jun 20 12.01pm
Originally posted by Mapletree No Because the removal of 25 million of the most healthy workforce emasculated the African economy, shifting wealth and wealth building from Africa to Europe. So people move for economic reasons, as many on here have been quick to point out. You just agreed witg me, they moved here for economic reason of how great our country is. However you said we took most if the healthy workforce, who is coming over now then, the less healthy?
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08 Jun 20 12.01pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Because the removal of 25 million of the most healthy workforce emasculated the African economy, shifting wealth and wealth building from Africa to Europe. So people move for economic reasons, as many on here have been quick to point out.

You just agreed witg me, they moved here for economic reason of how great our country is.

However you said we took most if the healthy workforce, who is coming over now then, the less healthy?

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Mapletree Croydon 08 Jun 20 12.05pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm not interested in your lies, either the ones you tell yourself or the ones you push on here. Slavery was in Africa and remains in Africa....it is a terrible reality, but it is for them to solve. As for your homosexuality joke.....You know it makes me laugh. Now I'm not particularly pro homosexual but I'm live and let live as long as no one's indoctrinating my kids or requiring my approval.....what you get up to is for you. Having said that I'm not the one sold to the pro gay agenda.....People like you and Dan are. So when you make homosexuality jokes under the guise of it's alright to make them to those who promote masculinity.....again the double think makes me laugh. So on that level at least. You succeeded. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.00pm) Oh, I had in mind a likely proclivity for S&M given how you post. Homosexuality eh, I wonder why that was on your mind.
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Mapletree

Croydon 08 Jun 20 12.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm not interested in your lies, either the ones you tell yourself or the ones you push on here.

Slavery was in Africa and remains in Africa....it is a terrible reality, but it is for them to solve.

Having said that I'm not the one sold to the pro gay agenda.....People like you and Dan are.

So when you make homosexuality jokes under the guise of it's alright to make them to those who promote masculinity.....again the double think makes me laugh.

So on that level at least. You succeeded.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.00pm)

Oh, I had in mind a likely proclivity for S&M given how you post. Homosexuality eh, I wonder why that was on your mind.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jun 20 12.08pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger A typically idiotic point of view. Slavery was legal in his day. His statue is no doubt to commemorate the good causes and institution that he contributed to. It is quite cleary ridiculous to destroy his statue in some sort of retrospective judgement based on our current morality. You want to tear down symbols of history that involved misdeeds? Didn't Nelson Mandella kill some people? Wasn't Malcolm X a blatant racist? Wasn't Muhammad Ali a student of a completely racist organisation? Didn't 'God' kill untold numbers with a flood? Don't get me started on Muhammad. Ha ha. You make coulston sound like he was taking advantage of a tax loophole. He defended against MP’s and others telling him it was immoral to trade and kill human beings. It’ll make no difference to your’s or my life now it’s come down, just as it didn’t before when it was up. Inside number 10 some of these things are gifting small victories. Attachment: 6F502949-E8E7-42C7-AB57-CA826B2D3F42.jpeg (474.25Kb) COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Jun 20 12.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A typically idiotic point of view.
Slavery was legal in his day. His statue is no doubt to commemorate the good causes and institution that he contributed to.
It is quite cleary ridiculous to destroy his statue in some sort of retrospective judgement based on our current morality.

You want to tear down symbols of history that involved misdeeds?

Didn't Nelson Mandella kill some people?
Wasn't Malcolm X a blatant racist?
Wasn't Muhammad Ali a student of a completely racist organisation?

Didn't 'God' kill untold numbers with a flood?
Don't get me started on Muhammad.

Ha ha. You make coulston sound like he was taking advantage of a tax loophole. He defended against MP’s and others telling him it was immoral to trade and kill human beings.

It’ll make no difference to your’s or my life now it’s come down, just as it didn’t before when it was up. Inside number 10 some of these things are gifting small victories.

Attachment: 6F502949-E8E7-42C7-AB57-CA826B2D3F42.jpeg (474.25Kb)

COYP

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Stirlingsays 08 Jun 20 12.08pm
Originally posted by Belmont conversely you seem to be ignoring the fact that the erosion of a way of life including the attempted eradication of language and huge crippling third world debt that was forced on African countries would have had no effect. It's as if you think African countries did that to themselves without any European involvement, interesting take I must say. Now you have completely ignored my points and instead only want to focus upon what you think you can blame Europeans for. Ok, unlike you with me, I'll address this. Colonialism was the way of the world back then. Africa itself was a constant battlefield of states wiping out other states....All of its time. Europeans built infrastructures and legal structures that Africa still depend upon to this day....They tried to westernise the Africa it controlled. In some ways it was a negative and in others a positive. I can accept the sensible in both senses. However, when it's used to justify shakedowns I'll criticise it for the holes the argument has. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.09pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

08 Jun 20 12.08pm

Originally posted by Belmont

It's as if you think African countries did that to themselves without any European involvement, interesting take I must say.

Now you have completely ignored my points and instead only want to focus upon what you think you can blame Europeans for. Ok, unlike you with me, I'll address this.

Colonialism was the way of the world back then. Africa itself was a constant battlefield of states wiping out other states....All of its time.

Europeans built infrastructures and legal structures that Africa still depend upon to this day....They tried to westernise the Africa it controlled.

In some ways it was a negative and in others a positive. I can accept the sensible in both senses.

However, when it's used to justify shakedowns I'll criticise it for the holes the argument has.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2020 12.09pm)

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