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Kermit8 Hevon 06 Sep 15 10.00pm
Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'. What are you, personally doing to help them? And what are you doing Zig to help? Or are you more of a hinder kinda guy? Edited by Kermit8 (06 Sep 2015 10.03pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?

And what are you doing Zig to help? Or are you more of a hinder kinda guy?

Edited by Kermit8 (06 Sep 2015 10.03pm)

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oldcodger 06 Sep 15 10.02pm
Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm Quote dannyboy1978 at 06 Sep 2015 9.31pm The no more imigrants petition has shot up! [Link] My petition [Link] is bigger than your petition. I'll be signing it.. along with lots of Dads.
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The no more imigrants petition has shot up!
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My petition [Link] is bigger than your petition.

I'll be signing it.. along with lots of Dads.

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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 15 10.03pm
Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm I cut and pasted your actual words in the last message. If you come out with these things you don't get to dictate how people reply. You seem to have these firm opinions on my contributions but equally it's very apparent that you have very little understanding of how yours are perceived and of your own misrepresentations. But I really don't care. Find something worth getting annoyed about. You made a post saying I held positions which aren't supported by my actual statements. You made assumptions......No one can control how their words are perceived but they can complain when they are misrepresented to say something other than what they said. Now you are saying I have misrepresented you. Where and what? Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 10.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Sep 15 10.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm

I cut and pasted your actual words in the last message. If you come out with these things you don't get to dictate how people reply.

You seem to have these firm opinions on my contributions but equally it's very apparent that you have very little understanding of how yours are perceived and of your own misrepresentations. But I really don't care. Find something worth getting annoyed about.

You made a post saying I held positions which aren't supported by my actual statements.

You made assumptions......No one can control how their words are perceived but they can complain when they are misrepresented to say something other than what they said.

Now you are saying I have misrepresented you. Where and what?

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 10.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 06 Sep 15 10.09pm
no problem with taking in genuine asylum claimants but we should be vetting them first. If it takes a few months then those in the camps should wait for the all clear. Everyone queueing up at calais can f*** right off. The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 06 Sep 15 10.09pm

no problem with taking in genuine asylum claimants but we should be vetting them first.

If it takes a few months then those in the camps should wait for the all clear.

Everyone queueing up at calais can f*** right off.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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oldcodger 06 Sep 15 10.17pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 06 Sep 2015 10.03pm Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm I cut and pasted your actual words in the last message. If you come out with these things you don't get to dictate how people reply. You seem to have these firm opinions on my contributions but equally it's very apparent that you have very little understanding of how yours are perceived and of your own misrepresentations. But I really don't care. Find something worth getting annoyed about. You made a post saying I held positions which aren't supported by my actual statements. You made assumptions......No one can control how their words are perceived but they can complain when they are misrepresented to say something other than what I said. Now you are saying I have misrepresented you. Where and what? Considering I basically pasted word for word what you said and that outraged you, I think you should 'have a word with yourself' rather than me. If you want to play the 'professionally offended' card that's for you. In the other immigration thread you misrepresented me stating over and over that I'd said there was 'no difference' at all between those who stay in Syria and those you leave, but it's hardly something I laboured like you're doing here. Others have eyes, they can draw their own conclusions without it being rammed down their throats.
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06 Sep 15 10.17pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 06 Sep 2015 10.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm

I cut and pasted your actual words in the last message. If you come out with these things you don't get to dictate how people reply.

You made a post saying I held positions which aren't supported by my actual statements.

You made assumptions......No one can control how their words are perceived but they can complain when they are misrepresented to say something other than what I said.

Now you are saying I have misrepresented you. Where and what?

Considering I basically pasted word for word what you said and that outraged you, I think you should 'have a word with yourself' rather than me. If you want to play the 'professionally offended' card that's for you. In the other immigration thread you misrepresented me stating over and over that I'd said there was 'no difference' at all between those who stay in Syria and those you leave, but it's hardly something I laboured like you're doing here. Others have eyes, they can draw their own conclusions without it being rammed down their throats.

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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 15 10.28pm
Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.17pm Considering I basically pasted word for word what you said and that outraged you, I think you should 'have a word with yourself' rather than me. If you want to play the 'professionally offended' card that's for you. In the other immigration thread you misrepresented me stating over and over that I'd said there was 'no difference' at all between those who stay in Syria and those you leave, but it's hardly something I laboured like you're doing here. Others have eyes, they can draw their own conclusions without it being rammed down their throats. The difference I referred to was all about worth. I was very very clear what I meant. This is no misrepresentation. Ok, lets see. So you agree that there is a difference in worth between young single men who stay and fight against IS in Syria and young single men seeking asylum looking for a new life in the west? If you say that they are both equal in worth then that's the 'no difference' I was referring to. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Sep 15 10.28pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.17pm

The difference I referred to was all about worth. I was very very clear what I meant. This is no misrepresentation. Ok, lets see.

So you agree that there is a difference in worth between young single men who stay and fight against IS in Syria and young single men seeking asylum looking for a new life in the west?

If you say that they are both equal in worth then that's the 'no difference' I was referring to.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 15 10.34pm
Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.17pm Considering I basically pasted word for word what you said and that outraged you, I think you should 'have a word with yourself' rather than me. If you want to play the 'professionally offended' card that's for you. In the other immigration thread you misrepresented me stating over and over that I'd said there was 'no difference' at all between those who stay in Syria and those you leave, but it's hardly something I laboured like you're doing here. Others have eyes, they can draw their own conclusions without it being rammed down their throats. Let me make it very clear for you. I find it easier to relate to people from a similar cultural background to me.....This does not mean I 'can't relate' to foreigners. My job involves working with them.....Again, I've probably helped more than you ever will in your life. Here's something else you will need to read and understand. I have an interest in all human life. This does not crossover to me providing homes for people in Britain, but it does translate to helping people....For example financially. By the way, Britain has given over one billion to the UN to upkeep the camps around Syria. Is that understood?.....Or do you want to find another way to twist these words? Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 10.36pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Sep 15 10.34pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.17pm

Let me make it very clear for you.

I find it easier to relate to people from a similar cultural background to me.....This does not mean I 'can't relate' to foreigners. My job involves working with them.....Again, I've probably helped more than you ever will in your life.

Here's something else you will need to read and understand. I have an interest in all human life. This does not crossover to me providing homes for people in Britain, but it does translate to helping people....For example financially.

By the way, Britain has given over one billion to the UN to upkeep the camps around Syria.

Is that understood?.....Or do you want to find another way to twist these words?

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 10.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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oldcodger 06 Sep 15 10.41pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 06 Sep 2015 10.28pm Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.17pm Considering I basically pasted word for word what you said and that outraged you, I think you should 'have a word with yourself' rather than me. If you want to play the 'professionally offended' card that's for you. In the other immigration thread you misrepresented me stating over and over that I'd said there was 'no difference' at all between those who stay in Syria and those you leave, but it's hardly something I laboured like you're doing here. Others have eyes, they can draw their own conclusions without it being rammed down their throats. The difference I referred to was all about worth. I was very very clear what I meant. This is no misrepresentation. Ok, lets see. So you agree that there is a difference in worth between young single men who stay and fight against IS in Syria and young single men seeking asylum looking for a new life in the west? If you say that they are both equal in worth then that's the 'no difference' I was referring to. I didn't say they were equal in worth anywhere actually. Keep digging. I said that bravery was attached to both decisions, to stay or to go. You're conjuring up things I didn't ever say, and I'm the one misrepresenting? Listen, this isn't fun for others to read. Perpetually getting your panties in a bunch online vs escaping a war torn country via a perilous journey to start a new life.. and these "cowardly young men" are the ones we should "doubt the worth" of. Boy oh boy did we get fat off the land in this country. And no, again these are your exact words, not a 'misrepresentation'. Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 10.42pm)
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06 Sep 15 10.41pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 06 Sep 2015 10.28pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.17pm

The difference I referred to was all about worth. I was very very clear what I meant. This is no misrepresentation. Ok, lets see.

So you agree that there is a difference in worth between young single men who stay and fight against IS in Syria and young single men seeking asylum looking for a new life in the west?

If you say that they are both equal in worth then that's the 'no difference' I was referring to.

I didn't say they were equal in worth anywhere actually. Keep digging. I said that bravery was attached to both decisions, to stay or to go. You're conjuring up things I didn't ever say, and I'm the one misrepresenting?

Listen, this isn't fun for others to read.

Perpetually getting your panties in a bunch online vs escaping a war torn country via a perilous journey to start a new life.. and these "cowardly young men" are the ones we should "doubt the worth" of. Boy oh boy did we get fat off the land in this country.

And no, again these are your exact words, not a 'misrepresentation'.

Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 10.42pm)

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Stirlingsays 06 Sep 15 10.59pm
Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.41pm I didn't say they were equal in worth anywhere actually. Keep digging. I said that bravery was attached to both decisions, to stay or to go. You're conjuring up things I didn't ever say, and I'm the one misrepresenting? Listen, this isn't fun for others to read. Perpetually getting your panties in a bunch online vs escaping a war torn country via a perilous journey to start a new life.. and these "cowardly young men" are the ones we should "doubt the worth" of. Boy oh boy did we get fat off the land in this country. And no, again these are your exact words, not a 'misrepresentation'. Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 10.42pm) So you are saying that both actions are 'brave' but that staying and fighting is the braver course of action? Again, I repeat.....What are you giving to those staying and fighting? One action gets the big pay off.....What do the people standing and fighting getting? As for my words...About cowards....yes, finally you get some accuracy. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 11.01pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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06 Sep 15 10.59pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.41pm

Listen, this isn't fun for others to read.

And no, again these are your exact words, not a 'misrepresentation'.

Edited by oldcodger (06 Sep 2015 10.42pm)

So you are saying that both actions are 'brave' but that staying and fighting is the braver course of action?

Again, I repeat.....What are you giving to those staying and fighting? One action gets the big pay off.....What do the people standing and fighting getting?

As for my words...About cowards....yes, finally you get some accuracy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Sep 2015 11.01pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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ZIGnZAG Stoke 06 Sep 15 11.03pm
Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.51pm Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'. What are you, personally doing to help them? Thus far, donated to the children's appeal, but this is one of those questions where no answer is good enough. I notice more people are coming out and saying they will open up their homes. You look at the comment section on these articles and people are slagging them off as 'wealthy do gooders'. Haha, my second question is.... Are you a politician!? As your answer was.... Shameful.
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Stoke 06 Sep 15 11.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 9.51pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?

Thus far, donated to the children's appeal, but this is one of those questions where no answer is good enough. I notice more people are coming out and saying they will open up their homes. You look at the comment section on these articles and people are slagging them off as 'wealthy do gooders'.

Haha, my second question is.... Are you a politician!?
As your answer was.... Shameful.

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ZIGnZAG Stoke 06 Sep 15 11.04pm
Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 10.00pm Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'. What are you, personally doing to help them? And what are you doing Zig to help? Or are you more of a hinder kinda guy? Edited by Kermit8 (06 Sep 2015 10.03pm) Sorry, my bad, but what's a hinder kind of guy???
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Stoke 06 Sep 15 11.04pm

Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 10.00pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 06 Sep 2015 9.45pm

Let me ask you this ode codger.... I am assuming you are all for helping these fine folk/pro asylum 'seekers'.

What are you, personally doing to help them?

And what are you doing Zig to help? Or are you more of a hinder kinda guy?

Edited by Kermit8 (06 Sep 2015 10.03pm)

Sorry, my bad, but what's a hinder kind of guy???

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ZIGnZAG Stoke 06 Sep 15 11.09pm
Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.02pm Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm Quote dannyboy1978 at 06 Sep 2015 9.31pm The no more imigrants petition has shot up! [Link] My petition [Link] is bigger than your petition. I'll be signing it.. along with lots of Dads. I'm a dad (for all that's worth) And I'll be signing the... I'm not taking my kids from a safe place on an ever so slightly 'riskey' adventure, where they could possibly die, just to get my teeth done. Oh sh!t my kids died, yea you get a picture of that, lets make it all worth while eh.' Petition. Edited by ZIGnZAG (06 Sep 2015 11.11pm)
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Stoke 06 Sep 15 11.09pm

Quote oldcodger at 06 Sep 2015 10.02pm

Quote Kermit8 at 06 Sep 2015 9.58pm

Quote dannyboy1978 at 06 Sep 2015 9.31pm

The no more imigrants petition has shot up!
[Link]

My petition [Link] is bigger than your petition.

I'll be signing it.. along with lots of Dads.

I'm a dad (for all that's worth)
And I'll be signing the... I'm not taking my kids from a safe place on an ever so slightly 'riskey' adventure, where they could possibly die, just to get my teeth done. Oh sh!t my kids died, yea you get a picture of that, lets make it all worth while eh.'

Petition.

Edited by ZIGnZAG (06 Sep 2015 11.11pm)

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