I believe it was all part of his stint as the Milk Tray man.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

How do you come to the conclusion that "the case against Trump was beyond poor"?
What happened on 6th Jan was played out on live television and summed up very accurately by Mitch McConnell in his closing remarks. Maybe there were some technicalities involved but the overall decision just seems to reflect party loyalties/fear of the future more than anything else.
The whole thing was scarily reminiscent of events in 1930's Germany and what we are seeing in Putin's Russia - a regime Trump appears to admire. Maybe that's all tied in with his business situation much of which has already been revealed in the recent book on Putin and his rise to power.

Scarily reminiscent? LOL. It was a load of misguided freaks. Who broke through a police cordon that was beyond weak (and the why around that needs answering ASAP).

As far as coups go it was perhaps the most rubbish one we have ever seen. No attempt to seize any other strategic targets, no organised military involvement, no attempts to take control of media. In short, farcical.

But kudos for Hitler and Putin in one post. Admire the effort.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Whether an ex-President could be impeached had not been tested before. Congress has definitively ruled on that. They can and they were.

This was done because it had to be done. Trump's behaviour could not simply be brushed aside and ignored for to do so would have established a terrible precedent. Getting it over quickly, because the result was always known, established the principle, allowed the facts to be aired and the videos to be on the record. No-one picked a fight with Trump. Trump picked a fight with the constitution, the law, with convention and with decency. That fight needed to be responded to and then pushed aside so that the bigger issues can be concentrated upon.

That 7 Republican Senators voted this time to convict is very significant. McConnell's speech yesterday likewise. If you haven't listened to it I recommend you do so.

My reading is that the GOP want to distance themselves from Trump but know they are hogtied to him. The Democrats are gleefully tying some of the knots.

The next 4 years will be very difficult for Biden as the pandemic will take a huge economic toll on the USA and the people there seem to have even shorter memories on where political responsibility lies than even we do. The GOP could easily regain control of both the House and the Senate in 2 years and have a decent chance of the Presidency in 2024, but only if they run a candidate who is less divisive than Trump.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Not sure you're right there. Many of the populist trump base will not tolerate what they see as a reversion to establishment. If anything it may encourage a very wealthy trumpish independent who will split the right and give the dems 4 more years.

More likely a trump lite character who pays lip service to his politics but is a little more polished and statesmanlike.

But they will be almost as divisive.

The number of times I hear this crap from the left is absurd.

The one person who was deliberately killed on that day was a women in the building not doing anything aggressive to anyone.

The last people who broke into the Capitol building were the Black Panthers in the sixties....they were fully armed and yet it was ended peacefully with no deaths.

Was that a reminder of the Nazis?

How about the far leftist group who bombed the Capitol building in the seventies?

Was that a reminder of the Nazis?

When a right winger has bacon and eggs for breakfast.

Is that a reminder of the Nazis?

It's such an absurd comparison....do you have any idea how pro Jewish Trump and the GOP are?

As for the waffle over Trump and Russia....the Democrats spent tens of millions investigating it and wasted years of important government business and arrived up with nothing.

What about Biden and China and Ukraine? There are significantly dodgy connections with both not just with Biden but his family...... yet neither the media are interested nor are the Democrats.

That's how fake they are both in principles and in practice.

You you carry on moaning about Trump.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)