Roy's relatives? I didn't know there were any on here.
Clearly you have inside knowledge on the identity of HOL posters

If there are not then the assumption would be you consider any poster who does not share your views on the current manager must be a relative and nepotism is at play.

A very well thought out and measured reply if I may say so.

I did not realise that alternative views were automatically by " Roy's relatives "

Now I do

Edited by HKOwen (03 Mar 2021 11.28am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Sorry but you have just as much ambition as Roy - 0

What a boring way to live, I'd hate to be comfortable with just getting by each year, progression is everything and palace aren't making any. Do you think City fans 20 years ago said they were happy to be in our position????

Ask yourself one question. If you were a young kid, new to football and excited about everything as you are at that age, why would you choose to support Palace once you have watched us play?

I think for a lot of us what we get and what we expect don't quite match, even if our expectations aren't that lofty.

Like many others I would have expected some signs of progress from having spent 8 seasons in the PL e.g. ground development, some evidence of joined-up thinking with regard to recruitment.

I would also expect to have a set of players who can pass the ball with a fair degree of accuracy. This seems to have got worse recently, but I don't think we have ever had a team that is comfortable in possession since we returned to the PL.

However, I will say that back in 2013 when watching us slump to a 1-4 home defeat to Fulham, I didn't have an expectation that entailed Palace still being in the PL in 2021.

Edited by Pete53 (03 Mar 2021 11.46am)

Apparently it’s impossible to spend that sort of money on a team because of FFP, which does beg the question how they and Chelsea “built” their teams.

There have been a number of very good posts on this thread so I am glad I started, and this is my final thought.

I am using collective names for the sake of ease not to deride.

The " Non Roy Out Brigade tend to put more emphasis on facts, objective issues like points etc and are free in criticising style when they don't like it.

The " Roy Out Brigade " are not fact driven and their complaints are predominantly subjective on matters of entertainment, style etc and are often like to forecast gloom and doom opinions as " facts ". i.e We will only get so many points in remaining games and this is what will happen if Roy stays .etc "

Opinions are just that so using " may ", "might", "possibly" rather than " will " might be worth considering.

Good talk

Now, positive thoughts everyone for the Manure game

Edited by HKOwen (03 Mar 2021 12.15pm)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.