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HerneBayPalace Herne Bay 21 Jul 20 8.17am
I think we can all blame Hodgson and all stick it to Parish, but I do think within the run that the players really need to take a look at themselves and individual errors. It will be likely 8 defeats on the bounce and I think that it actually highlights how bad the other teams are, that we can lose 8 and still remain comfortably safe. Our pride is gone and we have nothing to lose and a squad that is 'tired'. Play Kirby, Mitchell, Pierrick and chuck a youth team striker on the bench. Just give us some hope or prove that the kids really aren't good enough. Personally, I thought Mitchell look out of his depth and didn't have a good game. I certainly won't judge fully just yet, as he was against Traore. Edited by HerneBayPalace (21 Jul 2020 8.18am)
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I think we can all blame Hodgson and all stick it to Parish, but I do think within the run that the players really need to take a look at themselves and individual errors.

It will be likely 8 defeats on the bounce and I think that it actually highlights how bad the other teams are, that we can lose 8 and still remain comfortably safe.

Our pride is gone and we have nothing to lose and a squad that is 'tired'.

Play Kirby, Mitchell, Pierrick and chuck a youth team striker on the bench.

Just give us some hope or prove that the kids really aren't good enough.

Personally, I thought Mitchell look out of his depth and didn't have a good game. I certainly won't judge fully just yet, as he was against Traore.

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Eaglecoops CR3 21 Jul 20 8.23am
Originally posted by HerneBayPalace I think we can all blame Hodgson and all stick it to Parish, but I do think within the run that the players really need to take a look at themselves and individual errors. It will be likely 8 defeats on the bounce and I think that it actually highlights how bad the other teams are, that we can lose 8 and still remain comfortably safe. Our pride is gone and we have nothing to lose and a squad that is 'tired'. Play Kirby, Mitchell, Pierrick and chuck a youth team striker on the bench. Just give us some hope or prove that the kids really aren't good enough. Personally, I thought Mitchell look out of his depth and didn't have a good game. I certainly won't judge fully just yet, as he was against Traore. Edited by HerneBayPalace (21 Jul 2020 8.18am) I agree in part and it would be so unfair to rule a kid out after one game. I thought he did ok. He has a lot to learn but looks to have a bit of pace and is reasonably comfortable on the ball. Constant comparisons with AWB will never help his cause as clearly AWB was a huge talent that only come along once in a while.
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CR3 21 Jul 20 8.23am

Originally posted by HerneBayPalace

I think we can all blame Hodgson and all stick it to Parish, but I do think within the run that the players really need to take a look at themselves and individual errors.

It will be likely 8 defeats on the bounce and I think that it actually highlights how bad the other teams are, that we can lose 8 and still remain comfortably safe.

Our pride is gone and we have nothing to lose and a squad that is 'tired'.

Play Kirby, Mitchell, Pierrick and chuck a youth team striker on the bench.

Just give us some hope or prove that the kids really aren't good enough.

Personally, I thought Mitchell look out of his depth and didn't have a good game. I certainly won't judge fully just yet, as he was against Traore.

Edited by HerneBayPalace (21 Jul 2020 8.18am)

I agree in part and it would be so unfair to rule a kid out after one game. I thought he did ok. He has a lot to learn but looks to have a bit of pace and is reasonably comfortable on the ball. Constant comparisons with AWB will never help his cause as clearly AWB was a huge talent that only come along once in a while.

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Painter Croydon 21 Jul 20 8.26am
Originally posted by A1969Eagle Perrick wants to be a striker lol Not a defensive player When did he tell you?
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Croydon 21 Jul 20 8.26am

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

Perrick wants to be a striker lol

Not a defensive player

When did he tell you?

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hayling eagle 21 Jul 20 8.34am
Originally posted by Badger11 The lack of a decent striker is making us look far worse. In most of the games we have had chances I think that if we score we are good enough to get something out of a game. Goals win games we need 2 strikers who can get 10-15 goals per season each we also need a creative midfielder. This transfer window will decide if we stay up next season. In which case, don't hold your breath. Most of the players we will look at we won"t manage to sign. We'll manage to get one or two squad players on Deadline Day. I'd consider a bet on us going down next season, but probably not value for money. Haven't checked but I reckon we would be odds on to go down. Frankly, I'm really depressed about the future.
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21 Jul 20 8.34am

Originally posted by Badger11

The lack of a decent striker is making us look far worse.

In most of the games we have had chances I think that if we score we are good enough to get something out of a game.

Goals win games we need 2 strikers who can get 10-15 goals per season each we also need a creative midfielder.

This transfer window will decide if we stay up next season.

In which case, don't hold your breath. Most of the players we will look at we won"t manage to sign. We'll manage to get one or two squad players on Deadline Day. I'd consider a bet on us going down next season, but probably not value for money. Haven't checked but I reckon we would be odds on to go down.
Frankly, I'm really depressed about the future.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jul 20 8.42am
Originally posted by hayling eagle In which case, don't hold your breath. Most of the players we will look at we won"t manage to sign. We'll manage to get one or two squad players on Deadline Day. I'd consider a bet on us going down next season, but probably not value for money. Haven't checked but I reckon we would be odds on to go down. Frankly, I'm really depressed about the future. You are certainly not alone. Quite a few supporters I have been in conversation with are not positive at all about our prospects next season and not looking forward to it at all. Chickens have come home to roost.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jul 20 8.42am

Originally posted by hayling eagle

You are certainly not alone.
Quite a few supporters I have been in conversation with are not positive at all about our prospects next season and not looking forward to it at all.
Chickens have come home to roost.

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Pigglelet Deepest Darkest Sussex 21 Jul 20 8.44am
Originally posted by Willo You are certainly not alone. Quite a few supporters I have been in conversation with are not positive at all about our prospects next season and not looking forward to it at all. Chickens have come home to roost. I don't know what they are, but they are bigger than chickens I think. "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain.
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Deepest Darkest Sussex 21 Jul 20 8.44am

Originally posted by Willo

I don't know what they are, but they are bigger than chickens I think.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain.

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george1212 london 21 Jul 20 8.50am
There a few ways of looking at our current predicament. Clearly longer term change is needed. We have an aging squad and a majority of players who wouldn't get into a top 10 side outside of Wilf, Cahill and VG. That said, for the time being, we have another chance in the premier league and guaranteed our safety relatively early on. From that point of view, we've succeeded, even if the success we have sometimes seems limited. It's depressing when you look at teams like Wolves and even Leicester who both managed to come up and get into the top 10 and clearly have have more of a strategy at the helm. Unfortunately out owners and manager complain about how difficult it is to get good players in whilst the other teams to do it. I can tell this will be another awful transfer season so lets just hope we see a different team at the start of next season. Shocking end to the season all things considered. I do think it is time for Roy to retire.
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london 21 Jul 20 8.50am

There a few ways of looking at our current predicament. Clearly longer term change is needed. We have an aging squad and a majority of players who wouldn't get into a top 10 side outside of Wilf, Cahill and VG.

That said, for the time being, we have another chance in the premier league and guaranteed our safety relatively early on. From that point of view, we've succeeded, even if the success we have sometimes seems limited.

It's depressing when you look at teams like Wolves and even Leicester who both managed to come up and get into the top 10 and clearly have have more of a strategy at the helm. Unfortunately out owners and manager complain about how difficult it is to get good players in whilst the other teams to do it.

I can tell this will be another awful transfer season so lets just hope we see a different team at the start of next season. Shocking end to the season all things considered.

I do think it is time for Roy to retire.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Jul 20 10.08am
Originally posted by Badger11 The lack of a decent striker is making us look far worse. In most of the games we have had chances I think that if we score we are good enough to get something out of a game. Goals win games we need 2 strikers who can get 10-15 goals per season each we also need a creative midfielder. This transfer window will decide if we stay up next season. If we're relying on the transfer window to stay up then expect relegation.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Jul 20 10.08am

Originally posted by Badger11

The lack of a decent striker is making us look far worse.

In most of the games we have had chances I think that if we score we are good enough to get something out of a game.

Goals win games we need 2 strikers who can get 10-15 goals per season each we also need a creative midfielder.

This transfer window will decide if we stay up next season.

If we're relying on the transfer window to stay up then expect relegation.

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Eaglecoops CR3 21 Jul 20 10.14am
Originally posted by doombear If we're relying on the transfer window to stay up then expect relegation. I reckon that is the cold hard truth of it.
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CR3 21 Jul 20 10.14am

Originally posted by doombear

If we're relying on the transfer window to stay up then expect relegation.

I reckon that is the cold hard truth of it.

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ambrose7 Croydon 21 Jul 20 12.04pm
I'm actually hoping fans aren't allowed back straight away so the club can't sell season tickets until the window is closed or close to it. For the first time in 20 years of supporting Palace, I'm actually questioning whether I want to go. How sad is that? The club are currently only here to make up the numbers - we offer absolutely nothing else. No entertainment, no effort, no ambition. Nothing. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 21 Jul 20 12.04pm

I'm actually hoping fans aren't allowed back straight away so the club can't sell season tickets until the window is closed or close to it.

For the first time in 20 years of supporting Palace, I'm actually questioning whether I want to go.

How sad is that?

The club are currently only here to make up the numbers - we offer absolutely nothing else. No entertainment, no effort, no ambition. Nothing.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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Pete53 Hassocks 21 Jul 20 12.17pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 I'm actually hoping fans aren't allowed back straight away so the club can't sell season tickets until the window is closed or close to it. For the first time in 20 years of supporting Palace, I'm actually questioning whether I want to go. How sad is that? The club are currently only here to make up the numbers - we offer absolutely nothing else. No entertainment, no effort, no ambition. Nothing. I wouldn't put it past the club to ask for a deposit to secure your season ticket for whenever they might become available.
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Pete53

Hassocks 21 Jul 20 12.17pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

I'm actually hoping fans aren't allowed back straight away so the club can't sell season tickets until the window is closed or close to it.

For the first time in 20 years of supporting Palace, I'm actually questioning whether I want to go.

How sad is that?

The club are currently only here to make up the numbers - we offer absolutely nothing else. No entertainment, no effort, no ambition. Nothing.

I wouldn't put it past the club to ask for a deposit to secure your season ticket for whenever they might become available.

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HerneBayPalace Herne Bay 21 Jul 20 12.23pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 I'm actually hoping fans aren't allowed back straight away so the club can't sell season tickets until the window is closed or close to it. For the first time in 20 years of supporting Palace, I'm actually questioning whether I want to go. How sad is that? The club are currently only here to make up the numbers - we offer absolutely nothing else. No entertainment, no effort, no ambition. Nothing. This is true and very sad, you're spot on. I'd suggest Palace, Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham and Everton are the current small cluster of teams that offer nothing currently to the league by way of identity, excitement or real style of play. The difference with us is that all of the above teams, minus Brighton, have wealthy owners who will pump money in to turn it around sooner rather than later. I am not renewing my season ticket (if we can go) as it really just ruins your weekend. We can win 1-0 and I am not too fussed having watched us grind out a result at home to a sh*te Newcastle side, for example. At least I can currently change the channel and watch something else, knowing that we won't score. Last nights commentary highlight was a 10 min chat about Zaha's boots and him slipping over. We literally offer nothing. Ambrose7's post really sums up how I feel. I cannot wait for the season to be over so I don't have to find the enthusiasm to watch this rubbish.
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Herne Bay 21 Jul 20 12.23pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

I'm actually hoping fans aren't allowed back straight away so the club can't sell season tickets until the window is closed or close to it.

For the first time in 20 years of supporting Palace, I'm actually questioning whether I want to go.

How sad is that?

The club are currently only here to make up the numbers - we offer absolutely nothing else. No entertainment, no effort, no ambition. Nothing.

This is true and very sad, you're spot on.

I'd suggest Palace, Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham and Everton are the current small cluster of teams that offer nothing currently to the league by way of identity, excitement or real style of play.

The difference with us is that all of the above teams, minus Brighton, have wealthy owners who will pump money in to turn it around sooner rather than later.

I am not renewing my season ticket (if we can go) as it really just ruins your weekend.

We can win 1-0 and I am not too fussed having watched us grind out a result at home to a sh*te Newcastle side, for example.

At least I can currently change the channel and watch something else, knowing that we won't score.

Last nights commentary highlight was a 10 min chat about Zaha's boots and him slipping over.

We literally offer nothing.

Ambrose7's post really sums up how I feel.

I cannot wait for the season to be over so I don't have to find the enthusiasm to watch this rubbish.

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