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Pigglelet Deepest Darkest Sussex 14 Jul 20 7.37pm
Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle Hats off to Wigan no drop off in effort there despite Administration I think they are doing their darndest to finish the season more than 12 points above the bottom three. "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain.
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Pigglelet

Deepest Darkest Sussex 14 Jul 20 7.37pm

Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle

Hats off to Wigan no drop off in effort there despite Administration

I think they are doing their darndest to finish the season more than 12 points above the bottom three.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain.

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mattteo 14 Jul 20 7.53pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 I really don't think getting Benteke scoring is that difficult. Shown by Benteke's first season - all Andros Townsend did that season was hit early crosses and Benteke nearly got 20 goals. whaaaattt???? so much wrong in a single post. He didn't even nearly hit 20. He hit 15, 2 of which were penalties, So he hit 13, some against Championship opposition. He hasn't hit since. Townsend didn't just throw balls in. The phrase "all Townsend did..." wtf?? More like "all Benteke did was to put in some crosses when he was in the box". Benteke is a lost case, has lost much of his young years' pace. Should have been sold a long time ago. There was a time when he could have been swapped with Batshuayi from Chelsea. Nobody in that topic listened to me then and people who kept believing in Benteke just as you do now insulted me. [Link] This wasn't just a rumour, Antonio Conte has his fixated ideas. The man wanted Benteke!! He actually wanted him before, in 2017: [Link] [Link] [Link] Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 9.29pm)
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mattteo

14 Jul 20 7.53pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

I really don't think getting Benteke scoring is that difficult.

Shown by Benteke's first season - all Andros Townsend did that season was hit early crosses and Benteke nearly got 20 goals.

whaaaattt???? so much wrong in a single post. He didn't even nearly hit 20. He hit 15, 2 of which were penalties, So he hit 13, some against Championship opposition.

He hasn't hit since. Townsend didn't just throw balls in. The phrase "all Townsend did..."
wtf?? More like "all Benteke did was to put in some crosses when he was in the box".

Benteke is a lost case, has lost much of his young years' pace. Should have been sold a long time ago. There was a time when he could have been swapped with Batshuayi from Chelsea. Nobody in that topic listened to me then and people who kept believing in Benteke just as you do now insulted me.

[Link]

This wasn't just a rumour, Antonio Conte has his fixated ideas. The man wanted Benteke!! He actually wanted him before, in 2017:
[Link]

[Link]

Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 9.29pm)

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EddieMac 14 Jul 20 8.44pm
Originally posted by mattteo whaaaattt???? so much wrong in a single post. He didn't even nearly hit 20. He hit 15, 2 of which were penalties, So he hit 13, some against Championship opposition. He hasn't hit since. Townsend didn't just throw balls in. The phrase "all Townsend did..." wtf?? More like "all Benteke did was to put in some crosses when he was in the box". Benteke is a lost case, has lost much of his young years' pace. Should have been sold a long time ago. There was a time when he could have been swapped with Batshuayi from Chelsea. Nobody listened to me then and people kept believing in Benteke just as you do now insulted me. [Link] This wasn't just a rumour, Antonio Conte has his fixated ideas. The man wanted Benteke!! He actually wanted him before, in 2017: [Link] [Link] [Link] Don’t worry he has played his last game for us.
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EddieMac

14 Jul 20 8.44pm

Originally posted by mattteo

whaaaattt???? so much wrong in a single post. He didn't even nearly hit 20. He hit 15, 2 of which were penalties, So he hit 13, some against Championship opposition.

He hasn't hit since. Townsend didn't just throw balls in. The phrase "all Townsend did..."
wtf?? More like "all Benteke did was to put in some crosses when he was in the box".

Benteke is a lost case, has lost much of his young years' pace. Should have been sold a long time ago. There was a time when he could have been swapped with Batshuayi from Chelsea. Nobody listened to me then and people kept believing in Benteke just as you do now insulted me.

[Link]

This wasn't just a rumour, Antonio Conte has his fixated ideas. The man wanted Benteke!! He actually wanted him before, in 2017:
[Link]

[Link]

Don’t worry he has played his last game for us.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 14 Jul 20 9.42pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Don’t worry he has played his last game for us. Doesn't he have a contract until the end of next season or am I missing something / being thick ?
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Rachid Rachid Rachid

14 Jul 20 9.42pm

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Originally posted by EddieMac

Don’t worry he has played his last game for us.

Doesn't he have a contract until the end of next season or am I missing something / being thick ?

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deetee 14 Jul 20 10.24pm
Dyche would do for me. We should have got him in 4 seasons ago.
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deetee

14 Jul 20 10.24pm

Dyche would do for me. We should have got him in 4 seasons ago.

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jason7 croydon 15 Jul 20 10.31am
I would love us to talk to Julian Naglesmann,just see if he may want to take the reigns.Imagine the football,advanced playing.Would suit Max,and we could be the team to watch.I know he has Leipzig up there,but putting the feelers out may get us an amazing manager.
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jason7

croydon 15 Jul 20 10.31am

I would love us to talk to Julian Naglesmann,just see if he may want to take the reigns.Imagine the football,advanced playing.Would suit Max,and we could be the team to watch.I know he has Leipzig up there,but putting the feelers out may get us an amazing manager.

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ambrose7 Croydon 15 Jul 20 12.15pm
Originally posted by mattteo whaaaattt???? so much wrong in a single post. He didn't even nearly hit 20. He hit 15, 2 of which were penalties, So he hit 13, some against Championship opposition. He hasn't hit since. Townsend didn't just throw balls in. The phrase "all Townsend did..." wtf?? More like "all Benteke did was to put in some crosses when he was in the box". Benteke is a lost case, has lost much of his young years' pace. Should have been sold a long time ago. There was a time when he could have been swapped with Batshuayi from Chelsea. Nobody in that topic listened to me then and people who kept believing in Benteke just as you do now insulted me. [Link] This wasn't just a rumour, Antonio Conte has his fixated ideas. The man wanted Benteke!! He actually wanted him before, in 2017: [Link] [Link] [Link] Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 9.29pm) He hit 17 (2 in the cup), which is nearly 20. Not knocking Townsend at all, think he's been one of ur strongest players over the past few years. Allardyce and Pardew gave Townsend the instruction to get crosses in early, and he did it well, it got us goals. It was exactly what we needed. If you watch his goals from that season, they're predominantly from crosses [Link] That season, we put in the 2nd most crosses of any club in the Premier League. So Benteke scored. Since then we've been 13th, 18th, 18th, 18th for crosses. Therefore, he hasn't scored. Stats here - [Link] His biggest threat is undoubtedly with his head. Our current setup is the equivalent of playing long ball to Dwight Gayle. I'm not saying he's still a 15+ goal a season striker as he was for many years - his injury record alone stops him being that. Point is, we can't set up the team not to play to his strengths and expect him to consistently deliver goals. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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ambrose7

Croydon 15 Jul 20 12.15pm

Originally posted by mattteo

whaaaattt???? so much wrong in a single post. He didn't even nearly hit 20. He hit 15, 2 of which were penalties, So he hit 13, some against Championship opposition.

He hasn't hit since. Townsend didn't just throw balls in. The phrase "all Townsend did..."
wtf?? More like "all Benteke did was to put in some crosses when he was in the box".

[Link]

This wasn't just a rumour, Antonio Conte has his fixated ideas. The man wanted Benteke!! He actually wanted him before, in 2017:
[Link]

[Link]

Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 9.29pm)

He hit 17 (2 in the cup), which is nearly 20.

Not knocking Townsend at all, think he's been one of ur strongest players over the past few years. Allardyce and Pardew gave Townsend the instruction to get crosses in early, and he did it well, it got us goals. It was exactly what we needed.

If you watch his goals from that season, they're predominantly from crosses

[Link]

*That season, we put in the 2nd most crosses of any club in the Premier League. So Benteke scored.*

*Since then we've been 13th, 18th, 18th, 18th for crosses. Therefore, he hasn't scored.*

Stats here - [Link]

His biggest threat is undoubtedly with his head. Our current setup is the equivalent of playing long ball to Dwight Gayle.

I'm not saying he's still a 15+ goal a season striker as he was for many years - his injury record alone stops him being that. Point is, we can't set up the team not to play to his strengths and expect him to consistently deliver goals.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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mattteo 15 Jul 20 1.44pm
What's wih the Sean Dyche love on this board?? His team plays lousy football. His purchased players are of mediocre quality at best. [Link] If these would be his signings for rebuilding a team like Palace and this iwnhis vision, then NO, THANKS.
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mattteo

15 Jul 20 1.44pm

What's wih the Sean Dyche love on this board??

His team plays lousy football.

His purchased players are of mediocre quality at best.

[Link]

If these would be his signings for rebuilding a team like Palace and this iwnhis vision, then NO, THANKS.

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JohnB 15 Jul 20 1.46pm
The bit I don't get at all is that, yes I get a manager gives you instructions on how he wants to play and what he wants you to do, BUT...if you're Townsend or Zaha or whoever, you're not a robot. Surely if you see the opportunity to cross, you cross? I can't believe that footballers just blindly follow instructions, I mean half of them were out seeing brasses in the middle of lockdown. A change in system should not result in almost a complete reversal in the amount of crosses we put in, we still line up in some variance of 4-3-3 and when Zaha and Townsend make up 2 of that forward 3, you'd expect them to put the ball in the box more than they do. I can't see them running to the byline and just before seeing Benteke unmarked in the 6 yard box stopping themselves and think 'better not, the boss wants me to turn back on myself and play it behind me.'
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JohnB

15 Jul 20 1.46pm

The bit I don't get at all is that, yes I get a manager gives you instructions on how he wants to play and what he wants you to do, BUT...if you're Townsend or Zaha or whoever, you're not a robot. Surely if you see the opportunity to cross, you cross?

I can't believe that footballers just blindly follow instructions, I mean half of them were out seeing brasses in the middle of lockdown.

A change in system should not result in almost a complete reversal in the amount of crosses we put in, we still line up in some variance of 4-3-3 and when Zaha and Townsend make up 2 of that forward 3, you'd expect them to put the ball in the box more than they do. I can't see them running to the byline and just before seeing Benteke unmarked in the 6 yard box stopping themselves and think 'better not, the boss wants me to turn back on myself and play it behind me.'

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 20 2.24pm
Originally posted by JohnB The bit I don't get at all is that, yes I get a manager gives you instructions on how he wants to play and what he wants you to do, BUT...if you're Townsend or Zaha or whoever, you're not a robot. Surely if you see the opportunity to cross, you cross? I can't believe that footballers just blindly follow instructions, I mean half of them were out seeing brasses in the middle of lockdown. A change in system should not result in almost a complete reversal in the amount of crosses we put in, we still line up in some variance of 4-3-3 and when Zaha and Townsend make up 2 of that forward 3, you'd expect them to put the ball in the box more than they do. I can't see them running to the byline and just before seeing Benteke unmarked in the 6 yard box stopping themselves and think 'better not, the boss wants me to turn back on myself and play it behind me.' But with the right-footed Zaha on the left and the left-footed Andros on the right they aren't going to cross with their weaker foot! They are forever wanting to turn inside. Townsend still thinks he can hit his left foot swervers but the oppos are more than wise to that and he doesn't seem to have the guile he used to. His worldie against Citeh was a once-in-a-lifetime goal he's unlikely to repeat.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jul 20 2.24pm

Originally posted by JohnB

I can't believe that footballers just blindly follow instructions, I mean half of them were out seeing brasses in the middle of lockdown.

But with the right-footed Zaha on the left and the left-footed Andros on the right they aren't going to cross with their weaker foot! They are forever wanting to turn inside. Townsend still thinks he can hit his left foot swervers but the oppos are more than wise to that and he doesn't seem to have the guile he used to. His worldie against Citeh was a once-in-a-lifetime goal he's unlikely to repeat.

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EddieMac 15 Jul 20 2.44pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid Doesn't he have a contract until the end of next season or am I missing something / being thick ? He has indeed signed another year contract but I reckon he will be gone soon. Edited by EddieMac (15 Jul 2020 2.44pm)
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EddieMac

15 Jul 20 2.44pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Doesn't he have a contract until the end of next season or am I missing something / being thick ?

He has indeed signed another year contract but I reckon he will be gone soon.

Edited by EddieMac (15 Jul 2020 2.44pm)

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OldFella London 15 Jul 20 7.24pm
Originally posted by mattteo He is very intelligent and capable though. I don't know how to describe this....he is very strong and sane. He speaks with great rapidity and has lived a very sportive life. He looks like a wrestler, kind of like Arnold when he became Governor of California. He is not the Roy Hodgson old looking type. It's different for people. Age is just a number. Some people age faster, Lucescu ages very slow. And again...that other proposition,Ladislau Boloni is realy good too and a bit younger. Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 11.51am) Is he too fat though? Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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OldFella

London 15 Jul 20 7.24pm

Originally posted by mattteo

He is very intelligent and capable though. I don't know how to describe this....he is very strong and sane. He speaks with great rapidity and has lived a very sportive life. He looks like a wrestler, kind of like Arnold when he became Governor of California.

He is not the Roy Hodgson old looking type.

It's different for people. Age is just a number. Some people age faster, Lucescu ages very slow.

And again...that other proposition,Ladislau Boloni is realy good too and a bit younger.

Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 11.51am)

Is he too fat though?

Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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