Good post. To be fair I never said that you was all nonces, would just expect there to be a higher proportion than in everyday society. Anyway fair play to you for giving your time , for I'm assuming no pay? But i still won't be sending my boys.
Cheers.

I work with kids at the local junior parkrun, part of the wider parkrun scheme that started off as an outlet for adults. I do it as a volunteer and give up a lot of my time, but at the same time I do understand why these days eyebrows are raised. I have found since I started doing it that I don't feel any particular attachment to the kids and I distance myself from my involvement with the kids quite a bit (the others in my team are much more natural with the youngsters so I leave them to it). I get more involved in the admin side of things. You are right, it'd be a bit weird if I had maternal instincts. I look forward to being a dad myself one day though.

I'm the only member of the core team that doesn't have kids myself (we have an even split of men and women), plus I have a big beard which makes me look like a dirty weirdo. I imagine at some point at least one of the parents has thought "who is that f**king nonce hanging about"?!! There is a bit of a difference though. The majority of the kids that take part have their parents constantly in attendance, unlike with cubs/scouts etc.

We are all fully DBS checked, as are cubs and scouts leaders, but I do agree with the criticism of the DBS I have heard before along the lines of "that only captures anything you have previously been caught for, not intent". I bet Adam Johnson could've passed a DBS a couple of years ago. Probably Jimmy Savile a couple of years before his death.

So as someone that volunteers with a kids' event, I take no offence by comments that it looks a bit creepy. I personally know I'm not into that kind of stuff, it makes me f**king sick, and there will be a lot of people the same as me that volunteer to do stuff just because they want to give a bit back to the community. But we do live in a society where I can totally understand the concern of parents.

Yes just as I thought, you won't answer.

Okay, you live in Rotherham, you have a 13 year old daughter, 2 after school clubs, one run by 3 middle eastern Muslim males the other ran by 3 British women. What club would you choose ?

Edited by rikz (24 Feb 2016 11.38pm)

Nah, its pretty funny.

Of course putting your kids into cubs is a lower risk of abuse than letting other friends or family look after them. This is where abuse occurs.

Everyone I've known who was sexually molested as a child (which is only five people), was either by a relative (two by uncles, one by their father, one by their grandfather and the other by their father best friend).

That's over 44 years. I'm one of those people that unfortunately people tend to confide in. One was a girlfriend of a friend, one was a girl I was at school with, two were people I managed in a shop and the other was a daughter of my mums friend - My mum told be about it).

Thinking about it, I can think of two more. I'm like the noncewhisperer

It depends is your daughter homeless or in care? If so, then they're at risk from both groups, if not the risks are slightly higher in the group ran by men, than women, because of their gender.

The reality of such targeted abuse is that they target vulnerable children, typically 'troublesome' kids, those in care and those with problems they can exploit.

Particularly involving abuse with multiple Muslim men, the focus is very much around targeting vulnerable kids that people like social services and the police won't be interested in. Its like people who rape prostitutes, they do so because they know the police won't give a s**t, the CPS don't care.

The offenders tend to be responsible for the act, the status of the victim tends to be the determining factor in whether anyone will do anything about it.