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 Kermit8  Hevon 03 Feb 16 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
So why do 'business leaders' have a 'valid point' in your opinion on EU membership but are complete and utter 'cunds' in regards to most other matters? Read it back:... "Hmm..business leaders generally think we are better off in the EU than we would be if we left. Do you have any info to genuinely undermine their position? Why exactly would be be better off economically if we left. Facts only please." If you would - Make the case against. Ta. Not long to go. The referendum might be brought forward to June. Also, if you could inform me as to why they are being 'cunds' also in this particular instance then I will bow to your greater knowledge.
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 03 Feb 16 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Michael offers unsubstantiated opinion. So, do you agree with 'business leaders' or will you, like Corbyn and all the other geriatric revolutaries in the Labour Party, forgo deeply held principle that the EU is the 'bosses Union' and support EU membership because you can paint supporting exit as 'Britain First', 'swivel eyed (copyright Pefwin)' policy which is inherently driven by 'racism'? You obviously don't or cannot read. I said not 3 hours ago that my mind is not made up because I feel don't that enough proper unbiased information has been given on whether in or out is better.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 Feb 16 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Read it back:... "Hmm..business leaders generally think we are better off in the EU than we would be if we left. Do you have any info to genuinely undermine their position? Why exactly would be be better off economically if we left. Facts only please." If you would - Make the case against. Ta. Not long to go. The referendum might be brought forward to June. Also, if you could inform me as to why they are being 'cunds' also in this particular instance then I will bow to your greater knowledge.
I repeat. Why would you trust 'business leaders' in this insistence when you have continued criticised their actions on these boards, over matters like tax and zero hours contracts? I am not making a case for or against in this instance. I am asking you to explain why you appear to have suddenly believed every word 'business leaders' say about Brexit. I haven't said they were 'cunds'. You are either twisting words or not reading (deliberately or otherwise) what I am saying.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 Feb 16 6.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You obviously don't or cannot read. I said not 3 hours ago that my mind is not made up because I feel don't that enough proper unbiased information has been given on whether in or out is better.
No, I don't believe you. I believe that you have made your mind up to do whatever Corbyn tells you do. Thanks for the insult. Good to see that you are reflecting your 'noble' signature.
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| DanH SW2 03 Feb 16 6.18pm |
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Let's hope you three get to this point one day.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 03 Feb 16 6.33pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I repeat. Why would you trust 'business leaders' in this insistence when you have continued criticised their actions on these boards, over matters like tax and zero hours contracts? I am not making a case for or against in this instance. I am asking you to explain why you appear to have suddenly believed every word 'business leaders' say about Brexit. I haven't said they were 'cunds'. You are either twisting words or not reading (deliberately or otherwise) what I am saying. As it is in their dna I trust they and their businesses will follow the best course financially for them, and, thus, by default, for their hundreds of thousands (millions?) of employees. It's not like they are going to be arsey left-wing types saying the 'Out' voters are nothing but rabid xenophobes is it? They are purely looking at the economics.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 Feb 16 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
As it is in their dna I trust they and their businesses will follow the best course financially for them, and, thus, by default, for their hundreds of thousands (millions?) of employees. It's not like they are going to be arsey left-wing types saying the 'Out' voters are nothing but rabid xenophobes is it? They are purely looking at the economics. So what you are saying is that the thoughts of business leaders on this matter in unequivocally correct? Couldn't be an intrenched view, one that is prevalent in some aspects of industry, that simply change is to be feared because it is change and that seeking business from new markets is simply not worth bothering about?
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| Kermit8 Hevon 03 Feb 16 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
So what you are saying is that the thoughts of business leaders on this matter in unequivocally correct? Couldn't be an intrenched view, one that is prevalent in some aspects of industry, that simply change is to be feared because it is change and that seeking business from new markets is simply not worth bothering about? All I can add - and again purely about the economics of it - is why would they change/try to fix something which from their viewpoint isn't broken? Europe is our largest trading partner. A fact that mustn't and shouldn't be ignored or dismissed in the pursuit of change desired by the 'Outs'.
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| matt_himself Matataland 03 Feb 16 7.28pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
All I can add - and again purely about the economics of it - is why would they change/try to fix something which from their viewpoint isn't broken? Europe is our largest trading partner. A fact that mustn't and shouldn't be ignored or dismissed in the pursuit of change desired by the 'Outs'. And I respond that if you think the status quo is the best for Britain, whereby we continue to focus our trade on an 'economic bloc' that is clearly in serious decline, which in turn reduces our desire and focus to trade with emerging markets, then I believe that wrong. Brexit could have some very good benefits for the British economy. However, that would mean trading with people from very different cultures and different business practices, something the 'in' camp, for all the xenophobic accusations thrown at the 'out' camp, seem curiously reluctant to do.
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-TUX-  Alphabettispaghetti 03 Feb 16 7.29pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
As it is in their dna I trust they and their businesses will follow the best course financially for them, and, thus, by default, for their hundreds of thousands (millions?) of employees. It's not like they are going to be arsey left-wing types saying the 'Out' voters are nothing but rabid xenophobes is it? They are purely looking at the economics. For themselves and their own prosperity. 99.9% of the time it's never for anybody else's.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Feb 16 7.32pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
No, I don't believe you. I believe that you have made your mind up to do whatever Corbyn tells you do. Thanks for the insult. Good to see that you are reflecting your 'noble' signature. I don't see an insult. As for your Corbyn point, you are mistaken, but that is your prerogative.
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| Stirlingsays 03 Feb 16 8.30pm |
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Out.....If for no other reason that it would annoy those types who have bought cheap property aboard and for those that look down their nose at nationalism with a small n.
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