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johnno42000 Flag 16 Oct 15 9.00pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?

We're all in it togeather, except of course the corporations, the priviliged and the wealthy. Even the middle classes, a traditional bastion of conservatism are being squeezed.

Whilst we argue, left no right, the corporate state marches onwards making wage-slaves of us all.

Sorry, but what a load of horse s***. You want something in life, you have to work for it, that's the way it has always been.

The difference now is more people seem to think they are owed something for being born.

You could always drop out and go and live in a tepee


Not for all of us


You're a bit older than I imagined.

I doubt whether the Duke of Westminster has ever had to do a days work in his life. Not so much born with a silver spoon in his mouth more the deeds to a silver mine.


Well yes he is rather rich. I can't be arsed to research how his family made their money but I am not against the principal of hereditary wealth. Why if I work my arse off should the state get all my hard earned and not my family. Why shouldn't I be able to make sure that I provide for them when I'm worm food?

I very much doubt that his ancestors have had to do any work for an awful long time.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Oct 15 9.42pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 9.00pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 8.43pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 7.11pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 5.08pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 1.51pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 1.38pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Oct 2015 1.22pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?

We're all in it togeather, except of course the corporations, the priviliged and the wealthy. Even the middle classes, a traditional bastion of conservatism are being squeezed.

Whilst we argue, left no right, the corporate state marches onwards making wage-slaves of us all.

Sorry, but what a load of horse s***. You want something in life, you have to work for it, that's the way it has always been.

The difference now is more people seem to think they are owed something for being born.

You could always drop out and go and live in a tepee


Not for all of us


You're a bit older than I imagined.

I doubt whether the Duke of Westminster has ever had to do a days work in his life. Not so much born with a silver spoon in his mouth more the deeds to a silver mine.


Well yes he is rather rich. I can't be arsed to research how his family made their money but I am not against the principal of hereditary wealth. Why if I work my arse off should the state get all my hard earned and not my family. Why shouldn't I be able to make sure that I provide for them when I'm worm food?

I very much doubt that his ancestors have had to do any work for an awful long time.


I suspect he also employs a couple of thousand or more people as well.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 16 Oct 15 10.29pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Yay

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 8.00pm

Quote Midlands Eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.50pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.40pm

So going back to my original question, do you see immigration being up by 20% as a bad thing then Kermit?
Its one of those simple yes or no questions.

Well I certainly do.

This country is full up.


Me too, but lets see if Kermit can provide a straight answer..

Well Tom, looking at the bigger picture and not being an expert on the benefits v pitfalls of immigration the straight answer is ' I don't know'. Perhaps you in your non-prejudicial wisdom know different? I look forward to your response.

 


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MM.

Quote Jimenez at 16 Oct 2015 9.42pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 9.00pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 8.43pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 7.11pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 5.08pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 1.51pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 1.38pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Oct 2015 1.22pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?

We're all in it togeather, except of course the corporations, the priviliged and the wealthy. Even the middle classes, a traditional bastion of conservatism are being squeezed.

Whilst we argue, left no right, the corporate state marches onwards making wage-slaves of us all.

Sorry, but what a load of horse s***. You want something in life, you have to work for it, that's the way it has always been.

The difference now is more people seem to think they are owed something for being born.

You could always drop out and go and live in a tepee


Not for all of us


You're a bit older than I imagined.

I doubt whether the Duke of Westminster has ever had to do a days work in his life. Not so much born with a silver spoon in his mouth more the deeds to a silver mine.


Well yes he is rather rich. I can't be arsed to research how his family made their money but I am not against the principal of hereditary wealth. Why if I work my arse off should the state get all my hard earned and not my family. Why shouldn't I be able to make sure that I provide for them when I'm worm food?

I very much doubt that his ancestors have had to do any work for an awful long time.


I suspect he also employs a couple of thousand or more people as well.


Good point but I still can't stop laughing at the fact you paid £200 for a chimney sweep.

Edited by Kermit8 (16 Oct 2015 10.43pm)

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.42pm

MM.

Quote Jimenez at 16 Oct 2015 9.42pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 9.00pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 8.43pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 7.11pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 5.08pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 1.51pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 1.38pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Oct 2015 1.22pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?

We're all in it togeather, except of course the corporations, the priviliged and the wealthy. Even the middle classes, a traditional bastion of conservatism are being squeezed.

Whilst we argue, left no right, the corporate state marches onwards making wage-slaves of us all.

Sorry, but what a load of horse s***. You want something in life, you have to work for it, that's the way it has always been.

The difference now is more people seem to think they are owed something for being born.

You could always drop out and go and live in a tepee


Not for all of us


You're a bit older than I imagined.

I doubt whether the Duke of Westminster has ever had to do a days work in his life. Not so much born with a silver spoon in his mouth more the deeds to a silver mine.


Well yes he is rather rich. I can't be arsed to research how his family made their money but I am not against the principal of hereditary wealth. Why if I work my arse off should the state get all my hard earned and not my family. Why shouldn't I be able to make sure that I provide for them when I'm worm food?

I very much doubt that his ancestors have had to do any work for an awful long time.


I suspect he also employs a couple of thousand or more people as well.


Good point but I still can't stop laughing at the fact you paid £200 for a chimney sweep.

Edited by Kermit8 (16 Oct 2015 10.43pm)

Then your easily amused then.

 


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Quote Jimenez at 16 Oct 2015 10.46pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.42pm

MM.

Quote Jimenez at 16 Oct 2015 9.42pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 9.00pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 8.43pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 7.11pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 5.08pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 1.51pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 1.38pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Oct 2015 1.22pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?

We're all in it togeather, except of course the corporations, the priviliged and the wealthy. Even the middle classes, a traditional bastion of conservatism are being squeezed.

Whilst we argue, left no right, the corporate state marches onwards making wage-slaves of us all.

Sorry, but what a load of horse s***. You want something in life, you have to work for it, that's the way it has always been.

The difference now is more people seem to think they are owed something for being born.

You could always drop out and go and live in a tepee


Not for all of us


You're a bit older than I imagined.

I doubt whether the Duke of Westminster has ever had to do a days work in his life. Not so much born with a silver spoon in his mouth more the deeds to a silver mine.


Well yes he is rather rich. I can't be arsed to research how his family made their money but I am not against the principal of hereditary wealth. Why if I work my arse off should the state get all my hard earned and not my family. Why shouldn't I be able to make sure that I provide for them when I'm worm food?

I very much doubt that his ancestors have had to do any work for an awful long time.


I suspect he also employs a couple of thousand or more people as well.


Good point but I still can't stop laughing at the fact you paid £200 for a chimney sweep.

Edited by Kermit8 (16 Oct 2015 10.43pm)

Then your easily amused then.


Oh yes - especially when it involves my half-scot cuz. He saw you coming

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.52pm

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Quote Jimenez at 16 Oct 2015 10.46pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.42pm

MM.

Quote Jimenez at 16 Oct 2015 9.42pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 9.00pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 8.43pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 7.11pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 5.08pm

Quote johnno42000 at 16 Oct 2015 1.51pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 16 Oct 2015 1.38pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Oct 2015 1.22pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?

We're all in it togeather, except of course the corporations, the priviliged and the wealthy. Even the middle classes, a traditional bastion of conservatism are being squeezed.

Whilst we argue, left no right, the corporate state marches onwards making wage-slaves of us all.

Sorry, but what a load of horse s***. You want something in life, you have to work for it, that's the way it has always been.

The difference now is more people seem to think they are owed something for being born.

You could always drop out and go and live in a tepee


Not for all of us


You're a bit older than I imagined.

I doubt whether the Duke of Westminster has ever had to do a days work in his life. Not so much born with a silver spoon in his mouth more the deeds to a silver mine.


Well yes he is rather rich. I can't be arsed to research how his family made their money but I am not against the principal of hereditary wealth. Why if I work my arse off should the state get all my hard earned and not my family. Why shouldn't I be able to make sure that I provide for them when I'm worm food?

I very much doubt that his ancestors have had to do any work for an awful long time.


I suspect he also employs a couple of thousand or more people as well.


Good point but I still can't stop laughing at the fact you paid £200 for a chimney sweep.

Edited by Kermit8 (16 Oct 2015 10.43pm)

Then your easily amused then.


Oh yes - especially when it involves my half-scot cuz. He saw you coming


Well best to be safe than sorry. The chimney had probably been boarded up for years. It's no different from someone taking there car to a garage and being told that something is wrong with it? You often take people at face value. Now back to Netflix & your nacho's!!

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 16 Oct 15 11.15pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.29pm

Yay

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 8.00pm

Quote Midlands Eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.50pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.40pm

So going back to my original question, do you see immigration being up by 20% as a bad thing then Kermit?
Its one of those simple yes or no questions.

Well I certainly do.

This country is full up.


Me too, but lets see if Kermit can provide a straight answer..

Well Tom, looking at the bigger picture and not being an expert on the benefits v pitfalls of immigration the straight answer is ' I don't know'. Perhaps you in your non-prejudicial wisdom know different? I look forward to your response.

You “don’t know” That's odd, you are normally very clear on where you stand with this.
Just seems funny how you chose to include the fact that more immigrants have come to this country as a negative. Interesting.. After all your pro-immigration rhetoric it sounds like you inadvertently let the mask slip there for a minute Kermit on how you really feel about immigration..

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Oct 15 11.25pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 11.15pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.29pm

Yay

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 8.00pm

Quote Midlands Eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.50pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.40pm

So going back to my original question, do you see immigration being up by 20% as a bad thing then Kermit?
Its one of those simple yes or no questions.

Well I certainly do.

This country is full up.


Me too, but lets see if Kermit can provide a straight answer..

Well Tom, looking at the bigger picture and not being an expert on the benefits v pitfalls of immigration the straight answer is ' I don't know'. Perhaps you in your non-prejudicial wisdom know different? I look forward to your response.

You “don’t know” That's odd, you are normally very clear on where you stand with this.
Just seems funny how you chose to include the fact that more immigrants have come to this country as a negative. Interesting.. After all your pro-immigration rhetoric it sounds like you inadvertently let the mask slip there for a minute Kermit on how you really feel about immigration..


No pun intended, but it's not as black and white as yes or no is it?

 

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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 11.15pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 10.29pm

Yay

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 8.00pm

Quote Midlands Eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.50pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Oct 2015 7.40pm

So going back to my original question, do you see immigration being up by 20% as a bad thing then Kermit?
Its one of those simple yes or no questions.

Well I certainly do.

This country is full up.


Me too, but lets see if Kermit can provide a straight answer..

Well Tom, looking at the bigger picture and not being an expert on the benefits v pitfalls of immigration the straight answer is ' I don't know'. Perhaps you in your non-prejudicial wisdom know different? I look forward to your response.

You “don’t know” That's odd, you are normally very clear on where you stand with this.
Just seems funny how you chose to include the fact that more immigrants have come to this country as a negative. Interesting.. After all your pro-immigration rhetoric it sounds like you inadvertently let the mask slip there for a minute Kermit on how you really feel about immigration..


Think you are getting confused in your old age Tom. I rarely talk about immigration on this board. Taking in Syrian war refugees 'yes' I've said plenty in favour of but that is a different subject.

Nice try though. Better luck next time.

 


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Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?


Enlighten us....... publish the full list!


[Link]

Happy to oblige.

[Link]

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Quote susmik at 18 Oct 2015 1.11pm

Quote nickgusset at 16 Oct 2015 12.31pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 16 Oct 2015 12.25pm

Quote Kermit8 at 16 Oct 2015 12.20pm

Immigration up 20% since 2010.
National debt almost doubled since 2010.
Police stations being closed down. Coppers axed.
Anything happened about tax avoidance yet?
Housing and rent out of control.
Childrens services cut by 20%.

This list goes on and on.....

Meanwhile, the tories have accepted £60mill linked to hedge funds and private health.

And, it appears, The UK Statistics Authority has repeatedly warned the Tory government to stop lying over immigration, debt, unemployment, benefit caps, NHS spending and A&E performance.


We are being had, aren't we?


Enlighten us....... publish the full list!


[Link]

Happy to oblige.

[Link]


If you can't discredit the facts then discredit the person publishing them. Good tactic.

 


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