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Stuk Flag Top half 16 Oct 15 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Oct 2015 4.45pm

Quote AlexPalace at 15 Oct 2015 5.30pm

Could someone explain how Zaha has got in the all time top 10 palace players of Afro-Caribbean decent?

Perhaps because it says Top 10 Black Players, not Afro-Caribbean.


It didn't initially. You're late to the party on this one.

 


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lankygit Flag Lincoln 16 Oct 15 4.56pm Send a Private Message to lankygit Add lankygit as a friend

If we had a "Top Ten Palace Players of the Last Thirty Years", I`d expect at least half of them to be black anyway.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Oct 15 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Good point.

Black players do not need bigging up because their individual talents should speak for themselves. That's how it should be. A meritocracy.

Surely Vince Hilaire, Wilfred Zaha,John Salako,Ian Wright,Eric Young, to name a few, would be contenders for a top ten best ever.

 

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Oct 2015 5.05pm

Good point.

Black players do not need bigging up because their individual talents should speak for themselves. That's how it should be. A meritocracy.

Surely Vince Hilaire, Wilfred Zaha,John Salako,Ian Wright,Eric Young, to name a few, would be contenders for a top ten best ever.


Bearing in mind the overt and disgusting racism black players have faced over the years in football (monkey chants, bananas on the pitch, NF in the crowd to name a few), making a point about them succeeding in the face of massive prejudice is a valid one, and not one you are really in a position to make a judgement on.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 15 2.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Quote Seth at 17 Oct 2015 11.59am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Oct 2015 5.05pm

Good point.

Black players do not need bigging up because their individual talents should speak for themselves. That's how it should be. A meritocracy.

Surely Vince Hilaire, Wilfred Zaha,John Salako,Ian Wright,Eric Young, to name a few, would be contenders for a top ten best ever.


Bearing in mind the overt and disgusting racism black players have faced over the years in football (monkey chants, bananas on the pitch, NF in the crowd to name a few), making a point about them succeeding in the face of massive prejudice is a valid one, and not one you are really in a position to make a judgement on.

I'm not sure that has anything to do with creating a top 10 based on skin colour.

The plight of black players in the early days is well documented. Do you want to keep dwelling on it or move forward ? Black players in the football leagues are vastly disproportionate to the black population of the UK. That is a measure of footballing success is it not ?
Despite certain groups trying to make gain out of race issues, football has virtually no racism these days and black players are the norm.

I am in a position to say that.

 

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stevegood Flag 18 Oct 15 5.56pm

Worst - I nominate Akinbiyi

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Oct 15 4.37pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Oct 2015 5.05pm

Good point.

Black players do not need bigging up because their individual talents should speak for themselves. That's how it should be. A meritocracy.

Surely Vince Hilaire, Wilfred Zaha,John Salako,Ian Wright,Eric Young, to name a few, would be contenders for a top ten best ever.

Jim Cannon in black face? I think meritocracy might be pushing it a bit (largely on the manager front and gender front) but by an large in terms of race, its about what you can do, far more than the colour of your skin.

Most of the success of our accadamy graduates has been of black players, or players with a black heritage. The only ones of recent years that have been white were Ben Watson and Johnny Williams.


Edited by jamiemartin721 (19 Oct 2015 4.37pm)

 


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oldcodger Flag 19 Oct 15 6.37pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Next up, top ten mullets

 

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Quote oldcodger at 19 Oct 2015 6.37pm

Next up, top ten mullets

Already been done codge.

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Quote lankygit at 19 Oct 2015 9.03pm

Quote oldcodger at 19 Oct 2015 6.37pm

Next up, top ten mullets

Already been done codge.

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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 18 Oct 2015 2.19pm

Quote Seth at 17 Oct 2015 11.59am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 16 Oct 2015 5.05pm

Good point.

Black players do not need bigging up because their individual talents should speak for themselves. That's how it should be. A meritocracy.

Surely Vince Hilaire, Wilfred Zaha,John Salako,Ian Wright,Eric Young, to name a few, would be contenders for a top ten best ever.


Bearing in mind the overt and disgusting racism black players have faced over the years in football (monkey chants, bananas on the pitch, NF in the crowd to name a few), making a point about them succeeding in the face of massive prejudice is a valid one, and not one you are really in a position to make a judgement on.

I'm not sure that has anything to do with creating a top 10 based on skin colour.

The plight of black players in the early days is well documented. Do you want to keep dwelling on it or move forward ? Black players in the football leagues are vastly disproportionate to the black population of the UK. That is a measure of footballing success is it not ?
Despite certain groups trying to make gain out of race issues, football has virtually no racism these days and black players are the norm.

I am in a position to say that.

Yes it does, because it's reflecting the extra burden they've had to bear in getting to the top of their profession.

It's not a matter of "dwelling on it", it's a matter of recognising black players' efforts in overcoming ingrained racism in football and making a successful career against the odds.

The number of black footballers may be disproportionate to the population as a whole but that is a reflection of the player's determination, not something for football to pat itself on the back for.

"...football has virtually no racism these days..." Hmm. Let's see what the famously leftie hand-wringing pinkos at the Daily Mail say about that, or are they just a "certain group trying to make gain out of race issues..."?

Racism is rife in English football with over 350 incidents from the Premier League to grassroots since 2012, investigation reveals

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You may in a position to judge but you are clearly making the wrong judgement.

 


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Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has been performing minor miracles at Burton and with his pedigree I am genuinely curious as to why he hasn't been offered or even connected with any half-decent positions. Maybe that will all change soon enough. Hope so.

Can't be the dreaded 'r' word surely?

 


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