Go on. Name these liberal lefties running the country cos I can't see any!

The BBC, while an institution I wish to protect, is nevertheless an institution chock full of left leaning liberals who literally no longer deserve to produce a programme like 'Top Gear'. It will no doubt be anything like its former self as now the 'rebel' element has gone....Probably with about half the viewers as well.

The whole 'Savillegate' illusion is a total joke of an excuse for the actions of today's BBC's scared lefties who run the thing. That Saville era was completely different culturally from this one and the idea that it could occur today without action being taken is ridiculous.

Indeed even the mention of 'Saville' in regards to anything to do with Top Gear is frankly inappropriate.

What has occurred culturally at the BEEB is as usual a swing too far the other way in reaction to events to a 'safety first at all costs' approach which....frankly means that Clarkson and co are probable best out of it.

The BEEB have completely let down the fans of the show with how they have handled it....But never mind eh....You agreed with it....I can see the support of people like you really helping that show out.

The idea you produce and others produce that what has happened to Clarkson is only fair because no one would get away with this behaviour in the work place just amazes me.

You seriously put forward the idea that people are treated equally at work.....That's complete bulls***....It's never been the case at all.

People are rarely hit I grant you but I've seen physical stuff go on from bosses in the past.....Abuse of power goes on all the time and in many different ways.

Clarkson should have been disciplined internally. He regretted what happened and what would have been best would have been some sort of internal review where the show could have been protected until a 'graceful' handover.

But no.....The modern culture is apparently so much better....Despite being in cloud cuckoo land about the real reality of the workplace....It only represents those lefty liberal 'middle class' values that equal its own management.

None of which have half of Clarkson's talent.

Balls to it all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2015 10.58pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Little of your post actually seems to be about what I wrote above...more an opportunity for you to vent spleen at what you think "liberal lefties" are...You are better than that...

What I actually wrote, about equality of treatment in a workplace was:

"....everyone in a workplace should be treated as equally as possible"

As equally as possible allowing precisely for the fact complete equality of treatment in a workplace is unlikely...

If you don't at least aspire to that,for example in your school,fair enough...

Stirling is of course correct (nearly said 'right'). The new politically correct establishment is broadly lib/left and has done, and is doing, great harm.

Edited by derben (21 Jun 2015 9.15am)

While I was indeed expressing annoyance I did also answer you point.

You made the point that Clarkson being sacked was only correct because that is what would happen in the workplace with everyone being treated equally.

I countered that by stating that equal treatment has never been the norm in any workplace I've know.....But when it gets physical suddenly everyone's 'equal treatment'.

I'm not condoning physical violence in the workplace I'm simply making out the fact that the fallout has been over the top and damaging.

What annoys isn't that Clarkson wasn't deserving of punishment but that he was sacked with the result being an also certain lowering of quality for the programme.

No one's died, no one's been prosecuted by the Police....But the BBC decide he has to be sacked because the show's fans matter less than their workplace ideology. Then one of its ridiculous producers finds it sensible to connect Clarkson with Saville in a media interview......That was completely inappropriate....To be honest if I were Clarkson I'd look to sue for that...Maybe he has.

Schools are hardly institutions of 'equal treatment'. I could tell many a story of the staff room. As for how students are treated, well a good teacher tries to be impartial but many are on a sliding scale.

The point I'm making is that in the real world......There is no equality at all.

Sacking Clarkson on this 'equality' point is ridiculous when seen in the wider context....It appears that the only 'equality' issue is when someone hits you in the mush....It's complete implicit hypocrisy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I am of the right.

But simple labels are just that.

If I were to categorize myself I suppose I'd say 'red tory'.

I'm British working class and I reckon I stick up for them far more than you egalitarians do.

Lets go over my 'lefty' elements that I've supported on these boards.

I don't agree with state allowed protection of wealth that lowers social mobility and harms the very notion of meritocracy.

I'd ban private schools.
I'd ban religious schools.
I'm not too fond about some aspects of private health care, though I wouldn't ban it.
I'd increase social housing and not allow sell offs beyond a set percentage. This means supporting a house building plan.
I would look to attack 'protected elitism' whenever I found it. An elite isn't by itself a bad thing but access to it should only come from a genuine meritocracy.
I'd protect British working class jobs from lower paid immigration by control of our borders.

There you go.....I regard people who only fall into 'left' or 'right' categorises, in the political party sense..... as political sheep.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jun 2015 10.20am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)