You use the propaganda and sentimentality line every time you cannot really justify what the coalition are doing. Still it's a move on from blame Gordon.

Labour (much as I deplore them) did a lot t get thousands of children out of poverty. This is being reversed by the current lot.
The bedroom 'tax' is going to affect children and the disabled, yet according to you, this cannot be mentioned in a debate about the effects because it is sentimental and devalues the argument. How can one argue against something with you Johnny if they are not allowed to mention the people it directly affects?

Can you tell the newspapers this please.

This is a discussion with you. You started the thread with a title Bedroom Tax. It is by no definition a tax. The newspapers know this. Ed millibandwagon knows this, and you know this. But you and the press and millibandwagon and chums continue to use it to give someone a kicking. Because you know full well by saying it's a tax people will get upset and it may swing their vote. It is far less likely if you told them the truth. We expect mp's to lie. We expect the press to lie. We even expect estate agents to lie. What is your reason?

Edited by UnbornShaitan (21 Feb 2013 4.08pm)

Edited by UnbornShaitan (21 Feb 2013 4.08pm)

As happened with the "Poll Tax"

Do you really need a history lesson here or are you just trying to get a rise. You know full well the Poll tax is a tax as opposed to this engineered non tax the Bedroom tax. Also the Poll tax (and riots in 90) saw the end of Thatcher (which a poll showed only 12% supported) and Major announced immediately that it was scrapped. And more importantly pillock Kinnock was leader of Labour at the time which needs no explanation attatched. Also the tories did lose seats and a small percentage of the vote at the next election (although more people voted for them and in general at that election).