Another misrepresentation.

Never have I suggested I want to "control" anything.

I simply want it to fade away as a consequence of a better understanding and more effective terminology. Language is, as we all know, always evolving. My hope is that without you even realising it this terminology becomes redundant and that only as time passes do you realise you have stopped using it.

It has nothing at all to do with any kind of political correctness. It has only to do with accuracy.

My mother called Caribbean immigrants all kinds of things we no longer use today, but I don't think any have actually been banned. Using them as hate speech might be illegal but that's different. They just dropped out of use as our understanding improved. This is little different.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

It's not a misrepresentation at all.

As for what you want to happen. I find the idea you have that people will just give up their identities because you have or because you don't like it almost delicious as it is ridiculous.

You will be talking about world government next...it's like listening to sixth form.

The more you seek to minimize people's ethnic identities the more the opposite will happen. As I've said to you previously the only ethnic group who have lost their identity have been leftist and neoliberal Europeans. No other group in the world has...rich or poor.

Individualism always loses to collectives.....all you are doing is working towards serving yourself up as lunch.

Open your eyes and stop deluding yourself.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2020 3.21pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You see,here is my problem. I believe race issues of this nature are entirely political nowadays and at worst just a grab at power. Controlling language is just an aspect of that.
Also.It is not White people these days who are obsessed with colour. The only people who refer to themselves relentlessly using colour are Black people. It is totally divisive and political. We are supposed to endure this obvious racism and not point out the clear doublethink which denies White people the same kind of language. It is also very common to hear Black people insulting Whites in the media now, like somehow they are entitled to do it.The same rules do not apply to them.
I don't care if Black people want to insult us but equally,all the time we have these double standards and this crazy media 'Woke' agenda, my sympathy toward the sensitivity of 'BAME' people will be zero.

No, don't get me wrong.

As Q say, trump isn't the one in power. Who are in power are the fringe extreme right of the Republican party, many of whom would've been klansmen a generation ago, and who he has fallen into bed with to reach a level of power that gives him the legal impunity he needs.

I am against authoritarianism, capitalism and xenophobia. Therefore I am against Trump.

Edited by serial thriller (05 Oct 2020 4.21pm)

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Oh it's misrepresentation all right! Whether deliberate or caused by ignorance is another question. You do it again in your last comment.

I don't want to minimise (UK spelling) people's ethnic identities at all. You do, by trying to lump them all together in big groups called "black" and "white". People rightly treasure their ethnicity and all it brings with it but your skin colour is not the defining factor at all.

It's the use of skin colour as an adjective to define people I want to see fade away.

Talking about this with you is more like a first steps lesson in the kindergarten than the 5th form. Even pre-schoolers understand that children aren't defined by their skin colour but might come from different countries and have other cultures and religious festivals.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Posting with you is like punch and judy, if judy were a dishonest progressive.

The experience of answering you is that you don't engage in good faith with any of the arguments.

Your post here for example, is just going around in circles. Again, you just re-state my ideas how you wish to....You don't actually deal with any of my criticisms of your ideas, probably because you can't.

I came to understand this lack of flexibility and good faith a long time ago. It isn't about actual engagement with ideas it's about you and getting attention.....Still, what's most annoying is when you parrot back my own phrases back to me....Well no actually.... reading a guy slagging off his own parents on a public forum is probably worse....Then again, come to think of it there's something much worse than that.

And yes, sometimes I like to use American spellings....why is this something else you want to control now?

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Oct 2020 5.24pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)